FEL Bucket - welding Repair ???

[Dan_R_42]

Need to repair FEL bucket on B7100. Appears that I have worn through the back edges from clearing snow last winter.

I have a 1/8" x 2" gap on both sides of the bucket at the back edge. My question is, should I just fill the gap with hardfacing welding rod or add a small piece of 1" x 1" steel angle first (maybe as a skid plate) then apply the hard facing rod.

Having mixed feelings, as I feel that the angle will most likely wear out quickly, and also change the contour of the bottom of the bucket. B7100 buckets are rounded or curved, not like flat bottoms on newer machines. Looking for suggestions- please...

Thanks, Dan

 

[B7100hst-d]

I say do both. Put the angle there, then run some heavy bead "stripes" under it w/the hard face and that will give you a wear surface and act like a wear indicator on tires, when it wears flat, simply add a few more welding beads

 

[Dan_R_42]

OK... Next issue...

Has anyone used Weldcote Metals 309L-16 Stainless Steel welding rod as a substitute for hardfacing rod. My welding supplier suggests that I use it on the bucket repair. It is available in one pound tubes. Rod is designed to weld steel to stainless and is very hard, per my welding supplier.

It appears Hardfacing rod is only available in 10 pound lots. With tax about $100. WOW, got me by surprise. That is more rod than I could ever use in 10 life times. Not interested in investing in that much rod.

Thanks, Dan

 

[LRP]

IIRC 309L, the L means low carbon and u use that when u want to machine or tap after welding. just 308 or 309 would be harder , me thinks.
Louis

 

[LRP]

dan that 309L welding rod just joged my memory for a trick that i haven,t
used in years. get a few air arc carbon gougeing rods and drag it in the weld
puddle of a 7014, 6011, 7018 welding rod. a fie will not touch that weld.
u know the canary song?????

 

[LRP]

dan that 309L welding rod just joged my memory for a trick that i haven,t
used in years. get a few air arc carbon gougeing rods and drag it in the weld
puddle of a 7014, 6011, 7018 welding rod. a fie will not touch that weld.
u know the canary song?????

 

[Dan_R_42]

Thanks LRP !!! COOL, I will have to give that a try... Love those singing canaries...

 

[Dan_R_42]

After finding that every welding shop around only carries 10 pound packages of hardfacing rod, (at about $100) I tried it a different way.

Leave it to good old TSC... Seems that they carry "Hobart Hard Surfacing Electrodes, Build-up" part #H542144-RDP 1/8" Qty 4 for about $11

Who knew. Hope this helps out someone else down the road...

Dan

 

[Kytim]

Thats diffinitely the way to buy if you cant find them like at a local independant Ag store near me. you can buy any of 20-25 diff rods by the pound or fraction of a pound. 3/16ths rods add in number much quicker than 5/16ths. cant remember pricing but last time I was there it seemed reasonable to me. don't forget to sign your name with those hard rods. you could ID your stuff anywhere then.

When my Dad was mine super at a small coal mine in the sixties locally he told me stories of their welders. he said the guys would get board welding X's and dots all day so some of them became artists drawing pictures or poets and writing shorts stories or just practice writing their names with hard rod. idin't really matter I suppose as long as the bucket was built up so holes would not develop. He did note most of that type of stuff was on cutting edges, bottom of or inside buckets. That way the public couldnt see the sides where the wear was least likely to remove it. after all as quickly as a mining machines wear out metal, a blank slate would soon be available on something.

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