Cheap Fix, Hope it lasts (Driveway Cracks)

chim

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Most of our driveway is in good shape, but it developed about a half dozen cracks over the last year or two. The original 1990 gravel driveway was blacktopped around '94 and then topped in 2009. The 2009 fix is holding up better than the original blacktop. In an effort to get a few more years out of it before the next re-do I spent the day filling cracks. Lowes has something called QPR 6690 crack sealant at $70 for 5 gallons that I used. Although the measurement is gallons, what you get is two plastic-wrapped cubes in the box. After the cubes are removed from the box, they morph into whatever space they have.

Some users posted that they chopped pieces off to melt down. That wasn't an option today because it was way too soft to chop. The material reminded me of the Ram-nek joint sealant we used on manholes. To get usable chunks, slicing/scoring pieces repeatedly - A LOT - with a razor knife it seemed to work best for cutting 3-4" wide pieces.

Equipment was simple. Found a brand new 2-burner electric countertop "stove" on FM for $20 and visited a local re-uzit shop for a $5 pot and 50 cent dipper. I melted the plastic wrap right along with the sealer as others have done. Cut pieces tend to attach themselves very securely to whatever they are placed on. It would have been handy to have some plastic wrap to temporarily park pieces on.

Melting on the 120V burner was surprisingly quick. The pot sure got slopped up but the mini range only ended up with two little black dots. First step was dragging the air compressor out to blow the cracks clean while scraping them out. The they were pre-heated a bit withe a MAPP gas torch. Some of the larger cracks had to be topped off. due to the sealer flowing deep. Then to smooth them out I hit them with the torch. Most cracks were simple pour 'em and go. The trickiest one was a wide one on a hill. Took a little finesse. The sealer wanted to flow over the downhill side of the crack and not flush off with the uphill side. I tossed some sand on the patches near the house.

The cracks required about 3/4 of the 5 gallon box. It took till almost 10:00 in the morning to get set up and started. When it wrapped up around 6:30 this evening my ol' body was really glad.
 

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North Idaho Wolfman

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Why haven't you put asphalt sealer on it all these years?
Using a good sealer extends it's life a lot!
 
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Why haven't you put asphalt sealer on it all these years?
Using a good sealer extends it's life a lot!
The only really good asphalt sealer is having a professional come in with hot seal equipment and do it properly. Most sealer in a pail is junk and nothing more than black latex paint that comes off in 1-2 years.
 
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Why haven't you put asphalt sealer on it all these years?
Using a good sealer extends it's life a lot!
Look at the white lines in most shopping center parking lots and you will see cracks where the white paint sealed the asphalt. Even the lines in the center of the road causes cracks.
 

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Look at the white lines in most shopping center parking lots and you will see cracks where the white paint sealed the asphalt. Even the lines in the center of the road causes cracks.
I think that the white lines cause more damage due to the difference in expansion and contraction of the asphalt. The asphalt would be cooler under the white lines than the adjacent black asphalt. There's a parking lot we always traversed crossing the parking space lines and there was a noticeable bump when crossing the lines.

Years ago I was in a group that included an asphalt contractor. I asked him about sealing and he said that's something that they often discuss without real resolution. Sounded like the "ground up or down" discussions of electricians.

IF there was an advantage to sealing the driveway to keep water from getting under it, I'm not sure how I'd get access to seal the bottom:)
 

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Mark_BX25D

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The only really good asphalt sealer is having a professional come in with hot seal equipment and do it properly. Most sealer in a pail is junk and nothing more than black latex paint that comes off in 1-2 years.

This is it. Hot seal works. Pails don't.
 

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Humm I've had excellent luck with good asphalt sealer.
Up here it helps keep water and Ice out of the cracks so that the ice doesn't break it up.
 
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Have you found a brand that actually works? If so, please share!

Not that it matters to my current gravel driveway, of course. :D
 

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Most of our driveway is in good shape, but it developed about a half dozen cracks over the last year or two. The original 1990 gravel driveway was blacktopped around '94 and then topped in 2009. The 2009 fix is holding up better than the original blacktop. In an effort to get a few more years out of it before the next re-do I spent the day filling cracks. Lowes has something called QPR 6690 crack sealant at $70 for 5 gallons that I used. Although the measurement is gallons, what you get is two plastic-wrapped cubes in the box. After the cubes are removed from the box, they morph into whatever space they have.
I think your efforts will be rewarded by more years before complete re-do is necessary. I'm not one to tell folks what they did wrong after the fact. It chaps my butt when self anointed know-it-alls 🤠 do it to me. I offer something to consider going forward. Soil where I live is clay that expands when wet then shrinks when dry. During extended dry periods soil cracks exactly like your pavement. Building foundations shift and pavement cracks same as yours(or worse). The most effective preventive measure is sloping grade to prevent rainwater ponding near foundation and driveway then irrigating at first sign of ground cracking. Irrigating drive more than 50 feet from yard isn't practical but sloping to drainage ditch usually is.

BTW, you told us how much tar found it's way onto equipment, how much was on you at end of day. 😄
 

chim

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BTW, you told us how much tar found it's way onto equipment, how much was on you at end of day.

I'm happy and surprised to report almost none. Not wearing nice clothes prevented it much like buying a new snow blower prevents snow. "Disposable" clothes were chosen and not a drop got on them. There was one blob that was easily picked off my shoe. I did use an old pair of nearly worn out leather-palmed gloves that don't look much worse now.

As mentioned, the material is different from standard tar. It fuses to the blacktop so well that even without heating I'd bet a piece left sitting on bare blacktop would become part of it in a few hours. Yet it didn't stick to my gloves while handling it to cut it into chunks.

Altogether there were 4 or 5 small cracks plus two larger ones in which I believe tree roots played a part. In addition to a tree root, the largest crack (shown in the first post) was also near the top of the hill. I can envision the seasonal heating and cooling along with gravity helping a section of driveway "walk" downhill a bit with the separation happening at the weak spot (tree root) near the top.
 

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I contracted to paint a house and the owner asked how many coats of paint I apply. I said 3 and he said great, then I said one on house, one on ground and one on myself .