BX-2200 lower PTO doesnt work...

[plumbcut]

So I bought a BX2200 with a loader several years ago.. It had around 600 hours and was in good condition..

At some point I acquired a 60" belly mower and when I got it hooked up, I tried engaging the lower PTO and it doesnt turn. There is something internal to the PTO thats not working correctly. I have used the rear PTO extensively (and still do) and it works great..

Its been a while since I used the lower PTO but if I remember correctly it may have had just a little bit of a grinding noise when it tried to engage.

Any ideas? I service the tractor regularly so its not a fluid issue.. I do have a service manual but the diagrams are hard to interpret without having the thing physically torn down to reference. I would tear into it if I had the time or could afford the down time, but thats not the case right now.

Anyone ever experience this or have any insight? Thanks!

 

[85Hokie]

does that have 3 positions? MMM pto, Rear PTO, and then both?

 

[plumbcut]

does that have 3 positions? MMM pto, Rear PTO, and then both?

I believe its 2 position: rear, both, or off.

What is meant by MMM?

 

[hodge]

I believe its 2 position: rear, both, or off.

What is meant by MMM?

Mid Mount Mower

 

[dfh1977]

Should be lower both and rear for controls at least on mine


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[plumbcut]

Should be lower both and rear for controls at least on mine


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Well I know the tractor pretty well EXCEPT for the lower PTO controls because Ive never used them I'll check right now and get back to you

 

[plumbcut]

Welp I was wrong. Its got 3 settings; lower, both, and rear

Here are some quick videos I took. Didnt put much thought into them but they should give you an idea of what Im dealing with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfITdhpx_Q

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHIkCVVkhQM

 

[Wbk]

Try making the selection you wish to use then engaging the pto lever.

 

[Grouse Feathers]

You may not have the operators manual, so to operate the PTO.

The PTO clutch should be disengaged to shift the PTO selection lever.
To avoid shock loads to the PTO reduce engine speed to half, slowly engage the PTO clutch, increase engine speed.

 

[plumbcut]

No matter which way I engage the PTO, I get the same results. Regardless of PTO setting, engine speed, clutch engagement timing, etc...

Whats strange is that there feels like there are 4 detents in that lever. If you watch both videos you can get an idea of what I mean. There are clearly 4 stops in that lever. And pulling it all the way back, it feels like it doesnt quite fall all the way into that detent. Sort of bouncy.

 

[Grouse Feathers]

The point is you may be damaging the PTO gears by shifting with the clutch engaged, especially if you do it with an implement attached.

 

[Wbk]

The lever closest to the seat engages and disengages the pto, the other lever engages the output shaft you want to use. You have three choices, rear shaft is one detent front and rear another detent and front only another. Make the choice of which shaft you want to use move the outside lever to that position, then after you do that engage the pto by moving the lever closest to the seat forward. Try to have the engine at an idle when you engage the pto. We have three bx's and that's the way they all work. Hope this helps you out.

 

[1970cs]

What I believe is the issue here is that the mid PTO gear is worn to the point that the handle has to over travel to barely engage what is left of the teeth on that gear.

Pat

 

[plumbcut]

What I believe is the issue here is that the mid PTO gear is worn to the point that the handle has to over travel to barely engage what is left of the teeth on that gear.

Pat

This seems most plausible.

I wonder if this tractor was a mower for the first half of its life and has worn something out.. Its either mowed for 500-600+ hours, or zero hours. I dont see any tell tale signs either way but I assumed it had never had a mower attached. But it did come with turf tires.

 

[BrokenKY]

Have you found out what is wrong with the PTO on your BX? Mine started doing the same thing.

 

[plumbcut]

No I havent figured it out yet. I skimmed thru the workshop manual but it was of very little use. I am anxious to fix it but right now, there are a few other much higher priorities (like the wife is 9mos pregnant, etc)..

What exactly is yours doing?

 

[BrokenKY]

It is acting very similar to yours, the PTO will spin but it grinds and will not fully engage. The rear PTO will work nd is normal for operation. My problem is only the Mid PTO. If I resolve any issues I will forward the details.