belt twisted

[Speednut]

Hello, I am new, I tried a search but didn't see this asked before I have a Kubota B6000e 2wd with a brush cutter on back the belt is twisted. How would that happen? If I loosen the belt and straighten it will it twist again? I just bought the tractor I noticed it before I bought it. It came with several belts. It also has a belly mower but I will probably remove it.

 

[Speednut]

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I'm assuming you're talking about a PTO driven implement.....
I 'think' that B6000 is the REVERSED PTO version of tractors ?
If so THAT is why the belt is 'twisted'.....
Twisting the belt will change the direction BUT have to be careful due to 'stresses' the twisting puts upon the belt.

Ideally you'd buy or make a 'PTO shaft reversing box'.

 

[Speednut]

I 'think' that B6000 is the REVERSED PTO version of tractors ?
If so THAT is why the belt is 'twisted'.....
Twisting the belt will change the direction BUT have to be careful due to 'stresses' the twisting puts upon the belt.

Ideally you'd buy or make a 'PTO shaft reversing box'.

 

[Speednut]

Augh. Trying to post from phone is hard but that is where pics. are. I think this setup has been together many years I am thinking something else but may be wrong I bought at estate sale .

 

[Speednut]

The problem is rear brush cutter. I will remove belly mower it isn't needed. Right below the letter K on picture of brush cutter it is twisted that is the part I am talking about. I will probably take it apart and maybe try a new belt if no problems are seen. Thanks for any help or advise.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

from Google ( this website too...)
To clarify, all b6000's were designed and manafactured with an anti-clockwise PTO,

So the twist in the belt IS supposed to be there to get the brush cutter to spin in the correct direction.

If you remove the belt and engage the PTO, you'll see it spin CCW ( anti clockwise).
If you spin the brush cutter by hand look at how the 'driven pulley is supposed to turn (probably CW )

 

[Henro]

I'm assuming you're talking about a PTO driven implement.....
I 'think' that B6000 is the REVERSED PTO version of tractors ?
If so THAT is why the belt is 'twisted'.....
Twisting the belt will change the direction BUT have to be careful due to 'stresses' the twisting puts upon the belt.

Ideally you'd buy or make a 'PTO shaft reversing box'.

When I read the first post I thought the twisting meant the belt was twisted, but running correctly. (like a licorice stick)

In my mind the other term would be crossed, which would result in a rotational direction change between two spindles...

Now I am not sure which it is...

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Brush cutter with a belt?
I can't even envision it?

Pictures of what your dealing with will help clarify.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

OK your new pics posts and my post crossed paths.

AWWW that's not a brush cutter, that's a finish mower.
The belt is more than likely twisting from either being bad/broken, or you have a spindle or idler that is causing the issue.
Pull the belt (after a couple really good pic of it's routing) and see if it want's to go back into shape without kinks, twists, or bends.
Then check all spindles and idlers for proper operation, free movement and no damage to pulley or mounts.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

It'd sure be nice to see under the 'guard towers' !
Was that 'finish mower' designed for the B6000 ? Google wasn't too helpful....
Still thinking the belts twisted because PTO runs CCW instead of 'normal' CW.

 

[PHPaul]

My RFM will do that if the belt gets too worn. I think the internal cords break and weaken the belt. A new belt always fixes it.

However as others have said, check all the pulleys for damage (sharp edges, dents in the rim, out-of-round) and spindles (loose or noisy bearings) while you're in there.

And if there isn't a belt routing diagram sticker/decal TAKE PICTURES! Seems obvious when you're taking it off, but if you're like me, 5 minutes later you'll have forgotten how it's routed...

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

It'd sure be nice to see under the 'guard towers' !
Was that 'finish mower' designed for the B6000 ? Google wasn't too helpful....
Still thinking the belts twisted because PTO runs CCW instead of 'normal' CW.

Considering it is PTO shaft driven, I'm betting there is a reverser on the back of the tractor.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

rre:

but if you're like me, 5 minutes later you'll have forgotten how it's routed...

dang only takes me a 'blink of an eye' to wonder WHICH *(&*&(& way was that on ?,arrggggggg

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I found this for a Woods version, yeesh, belt is SUPPOSED to be twisted in 4 spots ! While it's not the correct make or model, I assume most might follow similar belt installation ? Google says Woods made both CW and CCW versions( OTT thread BTW...), so really need to see 'under the hood'. Wonder if there's a 'how to belt' label on the inside of one of the 'guard towers ??

 

[Speednut]

Ok it has a mowing deck on it but blades on rear pto driven deck look like mower blades also they both turn counterclockwise. No reverser on machine. Aren't to upload more pictures very soon

 

[Speednut]

the "cover" is a structural part of this assembly. SMH I thought it was a brush cutter till I looked at blades now wondering why 2 mowers on at same time?

 

[Speednut]

I bought it mostly for the cool little aluminum trailer and diesel engine I figure it can pull more than my golfcart

 

[GreensvilleJay]

OK, NOT similar in belting but might be able to rebelt IF you buy 2 'flat' pulleys and replace the 2 in post #16, 3rd picture. maybe...

probably best to remove from tractor, remove belt then store away for a 'rainy day' project.
BTW , Love the trailer's swept dumping back end !!!

 

[Speednut]

Yes a good rainy day project.