b2650 loader bucket too fast.

Scotty123

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anyway to adjust the speed of the tilt etc.? Compared to my 20 year old Mahindra the speed of the dump to way too fast and it take a careful/slow hand to do a clean spread.
 

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You can add flow restrictors, but I wouldn’t recommend.
I’d say lower the RPM’s some and/or just practice.
 
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You know it's a 2-stage dump control on the B2650, right? The first half of the loader lever dump is bypass mode ("fast dump"), then past the indent switches to valved mode, with full release speed control.
 
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You know it's a 2-stage dump control on the B2650, right? The first half of the loader lever dump is bypass mode ("fast dump"), then past the indent switches to valved mode, with full release speed control.
I hsve never used a Kubita loader with a four position bucket spool.

My LA525 is three positions with fast dump only and I can still meter dump speed with no problem.

On the four position valves can you still meter speed in the fourth position or is it just a slower "max" speed with more force?

Dan
 

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okay, bring me up to speed here. I understand a two stage dump...got it on my mahindra. On the b2650 is the fast dump (as stated above) first?, followed by the controlled dump?
As to 4 position valves...are you talking about up/down/dump/load?
 

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okay, bring me up to speed here. I understand a two stage dump...got it on my mahindra. On the b2650 is the fast dump (as stated above) first?, followed by the controlled dump?
As to 4 position valves...are you talking about up/down/dump/load?
Four position valve means the spool has a neutral + 4 diffrent shifted positions. The bucket and boom spools on your loader are both 4 position. On my LA525 the bucket spool is 3 position and dump is always regenerstive.

Regenerative dump is not "unontrolled". It can be metered exactly like a non-regenerstive spool. Its not clear to me that the fourth non-regenerative dump position on a Kubota loader valve can be metered.

My understanding is Kubota valves put regen before normal action which, if you think about the operational intent, is ass backwards.

Dan
 
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My understanding is Kubota valves put regen before normal action which, if you think about the operational intent, is ass backwards.

Dan
The regen on mine is definitely before normal. From a speed point of view it is backwards but the speed is controllable in regen and usually/always I'm dumping the bucket as fast as possible.

I don't think I've ever tried to control the speed in the normal range. In OP's case, he'd have to go through the fast range to get to the normal range, dumping the bucket on the way, so I don't think it would help him.

Mine definitely has more strength in normal. I can't roll the bucket enough in regen to lift the tractor's front end. Have to be able to lift the front end on a machine with a backhoe (and the rear) in order to sell it on-line 🙄.
 

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The regen on mine is definitely before normal. From a speed point of view it is backwards but the speed is controllable in regen and usually/always I'm dumping the bucket as fast as possible.

I don't think I've ever tried to control the speed in the normal range. In OP's case, he'd have to go through the fast range to get to the normal range, dumping the bucket on the way, so I don't think it would help him.

Mine definitely has more strength in normal. I can't roll the bucket enough in regen to lift the tractor's front end. Have to be able to lift the front end on a machine with a backhoe (and the rear) in order to sell it on-line 🙄.
My point exactly on order. IMO its ass backwards to have to go through fast dump to get to slow dump. Regen should be the 4th position just like float.

By its very nature regen produces less cylinder force. Its sumple physics.

Dan