Anybody having problems with Messicks web site, being blocked by Cloudflare?

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Yes, I agree 100%.

But the IP address mapping is widespread, as you said already and there are other companies protecting from denial of service attacks.

Yet, it is ONLY Cloudflare where I am seeing problems, so I have to conclude that the Cloudflare software (or parameter settings) are faulty.
Hugo I did this for a living starting way back in the early 70's before IP even existed. Thats a classic network analysis error. Cloudflare has been vetted a zillion times over. It works. Without seeing the error response you are getting from Cloudflare I can only speculate on whats happening.

Often there is a problem in some region of the network that Cloudflare is servicing and you are seeing the response from Cloudflare. The error reported is something like "host unreachable", "timeout, "invalid response", protocol error", "handshake failed" etc.

When that happens Cloudflare is acting as an intermediary and is trying to forward your packets to the next hop and return the response, if any, to you. That action is failing and Cloudflare is telling you it failed. There are many reasons why that could happen totally unrelated to Cloudflare or you. It can be as simple as the host is actually down. If it persists you need to talk to your ISP. If it is specific to one website you need to contact their support desk.

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So did I. But Firefox got so bloated over the past 20 odd years that it is creeping like a crippled worm. The Huawei browser is way faster.
hmm, I've never seen is go slow, though I do clean out history(browsing and temp cached) at least everyday and delete cookies older than 4 months or '1 look ones'. Running win10 on a 15 year old desktop.
 
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I just tried to get into NAPA again, same cloudflare message, i am blocked and there is a cloudflare ID number It suggests I use when I contact the NAPA website to resolve.
I guess I can't do that as I can't get to the website.

You are right, chicken -egg!
I may not understand the whole web system but I did nothing wrong. Can't wait until this affects my banking and credit cards, paying bills.

Bill

And yet I just checked and this bad actor can get into Messicks.
Welcome to the internet. Its robust but fragile at the same time. Right now we are at war and I am sure the non-stop attacks that we experience every nano-second of every day have intensified significsntly. The network control "centers" are undoybtedly besieged and working overtime to keep things working but its literally a game of wack-a-mole.

Dan

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No Dan, no error. I cannot get past this "prove you are human". This is Cloudflare only, the website has not even been accessed at this point.

And it happens to various web sites, all over the world. And rhe problem is ALWAYS with Cloudflare and NEVER with any other company. Messicks seems to be Cloudflares newest addition, their excellent web site worked fine until recently.

As I said, in the end of the day it is no problem for me, I go elsewhere. The businesses using Cloudflare are the only ones affected by it.

p.s.: I posted the response in post #1, second picture, endless loop. Cloudflare does not work. It prevents web site access from genuine users.
 

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No Dan, no error. I cannot get past this "prove you are human". This is Cloudflare only, the website has not even been accessed at this point.

And it happens to various web sites, all over the world. And rhe problem is ALWAYS with Cloudflare and NEVER with any other company. Messicks seems to be Cloudflares newest addition, their excellent web site worked fine until recently.

As I said, in the end of the day it is no problem for me, I go elsewhere. The businesses using Cloudflare are the only ones affected by it.

p.s.: I posted the response in post #1, second picture, endless loop. Cloudflare does not work. It prevents web site access from genuine users.
Apparently the professionals that really do have a very good understanding of how the internet works and does not work have made a horrible mistake. Big players like AWS, AZURE, and ORACLE are all adopting a broken security service that breaks the internet and drives away customers.

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Apparently the professionals that really do have a very good understanding of how the internet works and does not work have made a horrible mistake. Big players like AWS, AZURE, and ORACLE are all adopting a broken security service that breaks the internet and drives away customers.

Dan
Precisely.
 
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Update:
I just discovered that on sourceforge.net the cloudflare stuff seems to work. On all other web sites I came across using cloudflare, including messicks.com, I end up in an endless loop, so it is not working there.
 
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Update:
I just discovered that on sourceforge.net the cloudflare stuff seems to work. On all other web sites I came across using cloudflare, including messicks.com, I end up in an endless loop, so it is not working there.
So Cloudflare is broken everywhere but one site and only for you? I think not. There appears to be some issue with your end.

Dan
 
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So Cloudflare is broken everywhere but one site and only for you? I think not. There appears to be some issue with your end.

Dan
Nope, problem cannot be solved on my side. And I am not the only one as I learned in this thread.

Do you have shares in cloudflare?
 

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No financial ibterest ehatsoever. Who else has reported a problem with Messicks? I have none and AFAIK nobody else has either.
Go and buy a Huawei tablet, use it over a mobile phone network and report back.

I never said anything about problems with Messicks, the problem only has to do with cloudflare.
 
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Go and buy a Huawei tablet and report back.
Now we get to the crux of the matter.

Your Huawai tablet and built in browser dont work but Windows, Linux, Android, Chrome, Safari, Firefox abd a host of others do.

That leads me to believe Huaeai is the problem not Cloudflare. What, why, and how I have not a clue. I have been out of the business for 15 years so I am a bit behind the technology curve. But putting on my dusty old Help Desk hat what error messages are you getting?

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Go and buy a Huawei tablet, use it over a mobile phone network and report back.

I never said anything about problems with Messicks, the problem only has to do with cloudflare.
The title of this thread clearly states ""Anybody having problems with Messicks web site?""
 
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