I was doing some fencing this last weekend. I had my forks on the front and the post hole digger mounted to the back. I had two 330' rolls of fencing, and about twenty metal fence posts as well as a pallet. I loaded all from the back of a truck, crossed a ditch, drove up a 200 ft incline with no problem. When I started down into the field I was fencing the back of the tractor lifted about a foot off the ground. I only had the forks about a foot off the ground so it stopped it from flipping forward or to the side. It all happened very slow but it was an eye opener. I had thought it could roll to the side but did not expect it to try and flip over. Other than this one issue it has really impressed us. We have used to load fire wood into the greenhouses all winter. I may need to look into getting one of the spacer kits for the wheels and putting antifreeze in the rear tires.
Almost flipped my BX25D
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CaveCreekRay
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Grubbing out the back yard for a complete remodel...
Yesterday, I was pulling a 2" tree trunk out of the ground. Vertical with the chain was a no-go. So, I rocked the tractor forward and backward to tear the roots out. On the backward go, the rear wheels lifted off about 12-18 inches as the tree pulled the loader toward the ground. Very smooth and deceptive at first.
Note to self: Beware of that in the future!
Yesterday, I was pulling a 2" tree trunk out of the ground. Vertical with the chain was a no-go. So, I rocked the tractor forward and backward to tear the roots out. On the backward go, the rear wheels lifted off about 12-18 inches as the tree pulled the loader toward the ground. Very smooth and deceptive at first.
Note to self: Beware of that in the future!
A question for each of you. Do you have the habit of always using the seat belt when driving a car? How about the tractor?
Old seat belt logic always was, if you have ROPS, belt on, no ROPS belt off and pray you can dive farther than the tractor can roll!
I always wear a belt on my L3200. On my D-17... what's a seat belt?
I always wear a belt on my L3200. On my D-17... what's a seat belt?
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Flipping a tractor forward on it's nose is really really hard to do.
Can it be done, YEP! Here is proof of that (Found it on the Internet)!
#1 Cause, bad operating, #2 Cause again bad operating, #3 Cause no rear ballast!
Disclaimer: If this is your tractor, there should be an organization like the ASPCA, we will call it the WWSPCK (World Wide Society for the Prevention to Cruelty of Kubota's) to come over and teach you a lesson or two.
Can it be done, YEP! Here is proof of that (Found it on the Internet)!
#1 Cause, bad operating, #2 Cause again bad operating, #3 Cause no rear ballast!
Disclaimer: If this is your tractor, there should be an organization like the ASPCA, we will call it the WWSPCK (World Wide Society for the Prevention to Cruelty of Kubota's) to come over and teach you a lesson or two.
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North Idaho Wolfman, that looks like someone failed to anticipate......
I think the OP might have not estimated what a 330' roll of field fence weighs. Multiply that times 2, then stick it out on the forks.
It's like putting a fat boy on the other end of a teter totter and then wondering why your feet never touch the ground!
I think the OP might have not estimated what a 330' roll of field fence weighs. Multiply that times 2, then stick it out on the forks.
It's like putting a fat boy on the other end of a teter totter and then wondering why your feet never touch the ground!
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Flipping a tractor forward on it's nose is really really hard to do.
Can it be done, YEP! Here is proof of that (Found it on the Internet)!
#1 Cause, bad operating, #2 Cause again bad operating, #3 Cause no rear ballast!
Disclaimer: If this is your tractor, there should be an organization like the ASPCA, we will call it the WWSPCK (World Wide Society for the Prevention to Cruelty of Kubota's) to come over and teach you a lesson or two.
Hell, just looking at that make my butt pucker.......
can you imagine climbing OFF that machine? YOU would be shytting bullets......
even 3 beers....I would still be nervous .............
I have had my wheels off the ground.........
when the stabilizers were OUT!!!
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Yep! My thoughts as I looked at the first pic. The second pic convinced me to make a donation to that worthy organization!
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Nope...
When I am doing yard work like this I am on the tractor and off it every 2 minutes. Sometimes less.
When I am doing yard work like this I am on the tractor and off it every 2 minutes. Sometimes less.
I just read this post and it reminded me of a few operational over sight conditions I have experienced here and there. Other than stepping on the bathroom scale (and maybe on the right woman) a light rear end is always scary! I do my best to try to to remind myself which direction is bucket down when I get on the tractor. But on a safe operation side you did do the right operational thing keeping the loaded bucket as low to the ground as possible. So that saved the day... just like always keep the barrel of a gun pointed in a safe direction if something happens there is a lot of pucker factor but everyone walks away.
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I dunno about everyone else but I never take my hand of the FEL lever when it's loaded heavy. I've had to (forgive me) drop a load more than a couple times when I felt the rear end picking up. With your hand on the lever you should always be able to get the bucket to the ground faster than your tractor can flip/roll.
more than a couple times when I felt the rear end picking up. With your hand on the lever you should always be able to get the bucket to the ground faster than your tractor can flip/roll.I have tipped skid steers on their front end . A Kubota with the @$$ end up in the air like the one above with the FEL dug in like that is operated by someone that should not be in control!
That may be my opinion alone? When I was a young lad About 10 I was in the operators seat of an old Ford Johnson ( Blue Goose with the hot water 6) with a New Holland Baler baling straw behind the combine. I was taught by my Grandfather about double clutches, danger of pto's and when $£|^ goes bad, stop and put both hands up until he comes and sorts it out!
Nobody taught that fellow or gal about a "good run is better than a bad fight"!
Just saying!
That may be my opinion alone? When I was a young lad About 10 I was in the operators seat of an old Ford Johnson ( Blue Goose with the hot water 6) with a New Holland Baler baling straw behind the combine. I was taught by my Grandfather about double clutches, danger of pto's and when $£|^ goes bad, stop and put both hands up until he comes and sorts it out!
Nobody taught that fellow or gal about a "good run is better than a bad fight"!
Just saying!
Yes, I had the posthole digger mounted to the back instead of the backhoe. Yes, I had my seat belt on. Yes, I had the lift low and lowered it to the ground and stopped as quickly as it started to rise up in the back. It had hauled several loads until this. It was a grassy field and I suspect like the photo of someone else's accident that there was uneven ground under the grass. I guess the main point of my post was to remind us all to be careful. Even when your going slow and traveled down or across an area before, anything can and will happen.
I just checked the weight of the fencing, posts and pallet. 194lbs x 2, 6 lbs x 20, 1 pallet. So, my guess is close to 650 lbs. I am sure I exceeded one of the limits of the lift, the forks and/or the tractor itself.
I just checked the weight of the fencing, posts and pallet. 194lbs x 2, 6 lbs x 20, 1 pallet. So, my guess is close to 650 lbs. I am sure I exceeded one of the limits of the lift, the forks and/or the tractor itself.
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It's not only the weight and lack of rear ballast but the fact that the forks held the weight further away from the fulcrum point wrt the tractor.
I agree about the distance of the weight from the tractor. The two rolls were side by side. A more compact load might not have been an issue. I feel that driving down the incline greatly increased the odds of an accident. I was lucky that it only lifted up the back end for a few seconds. It could have easily flipped over or to the side. I have been at industrial sites that require forklifts to back down ramps when carrying a load.
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Bank Walker,
Thanks for posting your experience, enough can't be said for loader and tractor safety tips, even for the hard headed, a reminder of what can happen is good!
Thanks for posting your experience, enough can't be said for loader and tractor safety tips, even for the hard headed, a reminder of what can happen is good!
Bank Walker, probably the most important thing is you walked away unharmed. With the post you alert others to the dangers often not thought about when operating equipment, and the discussion helps others consider how they do things. Your grief was a blessing to others!
In a case like this, how much rear ballast would be a logical offset?? I'm thinking of making my own homemade, concrete barrel type 3pt ballast tub for the rear so I don't have to have something on the back (like my backhoe). I'm not even sure how much one of these homies would weigh.......