3 point Sprayer PTO

tsafa

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Does anyone here have any advice or experience for a 3 point Sprayer on an L3800.

I have seen the ones at Everything Attachments. It seems to me like the 55 gallon one might be a good match for L3800. It has a 12 foot boom for spraying lawns and a spraygun for $1,100.

Any thoughts? Should I go bigger? I am doing 3 to 5 acres.
 

BotaDriver

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Are you set on using your tractor? For $1100 you can build a setup far more versatile. You have a tractor supply a short drive from you. While something like this is a start http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/fimco-40-gallon-trailer-sprayer , their pumps are hit or miss. I use a 25 gallon sprayer I toss in the back of the kubota RTV that plugs into the lighter port.

There are other factors as well....like is this for your home only? A business, etc.... There are numerous factors that you've yet to list that will help determine suggestions.
 

Stubbyie

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A little bit more consideration of the entire process might help you make a decision.

My experience is that booms range between useless and PiA unless of the highest quality and used on a golf course-like terrain with no obstructions.

You'll find you can't get up much speed without those booms waggling up and down and front-to-back---and occasionally hanging up on something like a fence post or utility post or drag an embankment or something else. I was careful and spent a lot time repairing booms even if they hadn't hit anything. Consider also gate widths even when folded.

Consider instead a cluster-head sprayer. You might experience a little bit more drift (therefore more weather dependent when applying material) but the trade-offs are all positive. I get a 40-ft width with my cluster sprayer and do fencelines and ditches--and pastures--and don't have to worry about snagging anything (for ditches half the cluster is blanked off).

As for tank size, do your homework by checking with your (or Okla or Tx or Ark or Ks) state university ag extension service for the 'how to' set up and calibrate your intended rig for your specific intended herbicide.

Make yourself a chart for each different herbicide of your [[actual, tested]]ground speed, engine RPM / PTO speed, pump pressure, bypass pressure, mix ratio, whatever you think helpful.

Different materials will require different application rates which is the amount of material in one gallon distributed over some width of spray pattern, which is dependent on the specific spray tip and how fast you can drive your machine over the given terrain while maintaining your equipment without failure. Trust me, you can't manage booms at nearly the speed you think you can.

Restated, the 55-gals you mention may not be sufficient for a one-pass effort on your intended acreage, depending how you have to dilute the herbicide based on how your sprayer delivers a pattern based on how fast you can drive without breaking your booms (or riding a bucking bronco with all that weight on the 3-point).

RoundUp, 2, 4-D, MSMA, atrazine, whatever you use will be mixed differently and you'll need to have calibrated your rig by driving a pattern with plain water to determine a baseline. Refer to the state Univs mentioned above. It's not overly difficult, just follow their directions.

You may need an applicator's license in your area, if for no other reason than to placate bothersome neighbors if you kill their tomatoes or roses with drift.

You can save money by buying generic materials and adding your own defoamer and surfactant. Be sure to clean the rig with herbicide cleaner after each use (and winterize the pump and filter). And watch out for kids and pets and livestock.

Make sure the rig you buy has a bypass or mixing line or valve and a pressure regulator and pressure gauge and 'Y' filter. Until you get more experience I'd suggest staying away from plunger or gear-type pumps because they are positive displacement and can easily blow a line (drenching you and your landscape with herbicide) if something is misadjusted. Roller-type pumps are less expensive and more forgiving.

If your intended material has to mixed with diesel make certain your entire assembly can withstand hydrocarbon exposure.

Please don't be the person that just sloshes a jug of herbicide into a tank and drives around. It makes all agriculture look bad to the civilians and leads to restrictions when govt gets involved because of complaints. And I guarantee if you're in a high-density population area you will get complaints even if just because of the sight of you spraying or the smell, not to mention the well meaning but ignorant citizenry trying to save themselves from the imagined horrors of correctly-applied herbicides---while munching commercial French fries and unwashed apples.

Please post back your decision and experiences so we may all learn.
 

olthumpa

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Stubbyie, great information - well organized and articulate!:)
 

Burt

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Does anyone here have any advice or experience for a 3 point Sprayer on an L3800.

I have seen the ones at Everything Attachments. It seems to me like the 55 gallon one might be a good match for L3800. It has a 12 foot boom for spraying lawns and a spraygun for $1,100.

Any thoughts? Should I go bigger? I am doing 3 to 5 acres.
Bota Driver:

We have an L3700SU (Same as L3800). Instead of using the tractor, we opted for using the ATV with a 25 gl. and a boom. It work perfectly! I made a 2X4 frame for the tank and an extra battery. The boom doesn't wobble like it would on a tractor. Do realize however, that getting info from the suppler regarding nozzles is an entire world of choices. The nozzle do make a difference whether you choose an ATV sprayer or your tractor.

Since your property is about the same size as ours, it didn't take long to apply 24D here properly using the boom and the wand. The wand allowed me to get in between some areas that were frisky and the ATV would not go there.

I think the total cost will be much less using an ATV for smaller properties.

Our setup was noticed by my neighbor who has a very large JD tractor. He borrowed the ATV, and sprayer to do his place and was very happy about it. It worked perfectly. He did about 10 acres with it. He is a very knowledgeable farmer and long-time county resident.

Good hunting,

Burt
 

gpreuss

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I put a power outlet on the tractor, and got a 25 gal trailer sprayer, with a 5' boom - does a 7' swath. About $250, if I remember correctly. It does fine. Wouldn't hurt if it was 50 gal, though. They didn't cost much more. On level ground like lawn we can pull it with the riding lawn mower, too!
 

tsafa

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Thanks for all the great info everyone. I have to do some more thinking about this before I commit to a decision.
 

ShaunRH

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Being new, I should remain quiet and lurk for a while but I have some experience here.

We've built a couple of sprayers and for far less than $1100. The technology is so simple that just about anyone with minor mechanical skill can do it.

Some unistrut for a tank base and pins to attach to your 3 point with barstock for a top link support and you wouldn't even need to weld. A $30-$50 12V pump from Harbor Freight, the tank (of course) and spray mechanisms of your choice. You should be able to come in under $250 even with some bells and whistles (auto shut offs, remote lift of a boom arm, etc.)

Nice thing with the 3 point set up, you could lift the 3 point with sprayer attached and then tow another trailer behind the tractor using the drawbar; seeder, spreader, harrow, breaker, etc.

You could build your own PTO pump if you wanted, but the small electrics are just so easy to work with, it would be more trouble than it would be worth.

Sorry for a newbie poking his nose in if it's unwelcome... :D

PS: Did some more poking, found these 25 gallon pro-built systems for under $200...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EZ-Mount-Sp...202755?pt=US_Garden_Tools&hash=item3a8ef01883
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AG-SOUTH-25...131003132420&rk=6&rkt=6&sd=251506202755&rt=nc
Fab up a 3 point bracket or mount to a trailer and you're set. You could add booms/spray bars all for under $350. Interrupt the hose after the pump and plumb them in. Makes me wonder why I spent all that time building one from scratch! LOL! :D
 
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skeets

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Well ya poked your nose in and,,,,, gave some really good info;)
And if know something never fear jumping right in or if ya don't know asking a question,,
And in case nobody told you today,,, Welcome to the Orange:D
 

Stubbyie

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In my first response to your post I concentrated on the stated desire for a 3-point spray rig with booms.

Then another poster popped up with his better idea--one with which I totally agree.

We too use a 30-gal plastic tank and 12-vdc electric pump and a hand wand when spraying in areas we don't want to drench fruit trees with a cluster-head sprayer.

Cluster head great for covering pastures, fences, and ditches---just not heavily [fruit] treed areas.

We rigged a garage-sale vehicle receiver-hitch basket (also at Harbor Freight, use 20% coupon for a deal) on top of a brushhog and installed a 12-vdc outlet on the tractor. Great for small jobs and actually used more often than the big rig.

Picked up the Fimco spray rig at Tractor Supply at end of season as a customer-return, no box or paperwork, for $100. Spray wand cracked on second use, called Fimco, and they shipped a new one no charge.

Please post back with your continuing experiences and your ultimate decision how to proceed so we may all learn.