B7100HST and Land Pride tiller RTR0542, Help!

Jhoss · Oct 29, 2012

Hi All, And, what a resource OTT is! (Thank you!)

I seem to have a problem with the PTO shaft of the tiller matching the Tractor's PTO shaft. The dern thing don't wanna fit! And the tiller came off a Kubota the same size (different model) as mine....errr!

Am I insane? Should they fit together? Is there some sort of adapter I need?

Here's the tractor PTO shaft;

Here's the shaft that came with the tiller.

Thanks in advance.
Jhoss

Jhoss · Oct 29, 2012

Here I am replying to my own post. I have a suspicion...could the shaft on the tractor be un-finished? I took the shaft from tiller into the tractor mechanic at the Kubota it slid right onto another Cat 1 tractor. The tractors PTO shaft had long chamfers instead of what I would call "ears".

Anyone ever heard of a shaft installed unfinished?

hodge · Oct 29, 2012

How long have you owned the tractor? Have you used anything else, run by the pto? The shaft that you have does not look like the one on my B7100- mine doesn't have the ridge running in the valley between the big ridges. I will include a photo. I would suspect that the previous owner did something to the shaft, and replaced it with the wrong one. You should be able to pull that back plate off and change out the shaft.
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http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/br549_red/?action=view&current=Stabilworks002.jpg

Lil Foot · Oct 29, 2012

I agree with hodge- That shaft does not look like the one on my B7100DT.... but my tractor is not handy for a photo.

hodge · Oct 29, 2012

Jhoss, I saw you post on another forum- exactly what model B7100 do you have? I don't think your pto shaft is correct- either a wrong one was installed at the factory, or you have a tractor not planned to be sold in the states.
The shaft on your tiller is correct; the shaft on your tractor isn't standard for implements here in the states.
Your tractor looks identical to mine, though. So, I would assume that you have the wrong shaft. You should be able to pull that cover, remove the shaft, and get the correct one from a dealership or a parts yard.

Rob · Oct 29, 2012

I have to agree also, thats not a standard B7100 setup hst or manual version.

the pto output shaft housing is different also, it is certainly a us spec HST, but that pto is odd.
Having messed about with my B7100 pto section at lot recently and also with a B7001 setup , it's nothing like them, also it would not be easy to substitute the original shaft with another that wasnt the same as other connecting parts are different, for example the B7001 diffent in lenght etc to start with, same appies to a lot of B6100hst's etc.

It is very possible that it is a very late and last of the B7100hst's that had a modified assembly, but i have not seen one yet so cant say eitherway.

chances are it has been modified for a specific fitment by someone.

I'll take a look at all my B7100 shcematics etc to see if it show a similar assembly.

rob

Rob · Oct 29, 2012

I have just taken a good look at that 7100 pic, i'd say it a prodution mod.
look at the front axle hubs, they look to be the modified units that were fitted on the very last of the B7100hst's.

If you give us the serial number i can cross ref it with my data sheets which cover us and european spec B7100 HST-D versions inc the latest version with the newsytle front axle assembly.
I think this will narrow down if it standard fitment or a previous owner modification for a specific fitment.

just my observations guys.

rob

hodge · Oct 29, 2012

Rob, Jhoss indicated on the other forum that he is the original owner.
He has only used the tractor with a mmm, and hasn't used the pto until now.
His front axle ends look the same as on my 90 B7100.
If the wind/rain isn't blowing too hard tomorrow, I will get a closeup photo of the pto shaft and plate on my B7100.

Rob · Oct 30, 2012

just been out and double checked on my 89 7100hst, its the same as my DT.

maybe its not the pto shaft thats the prob, it may look different but may be ok sizewise.
Prehaps, its the impement shaft end that is a bit out.

rob

Rob · Oct 30, 2012

I cant workout what the purpose of that flange is around the shaft, its got two bolt holes in it so it must be for fixing on or for fixing something to it.
i cant see why it would be fitted afterwards if it was a kubota part unless its part of the casting, hence my thoughts on a modified pto cover.
its got an oil seal , so edging towards a production mod on late model hst.

i supose the quickest way would be to try a known to be good implememt pto shaft on the 7100 and see what goes, or not.

rob

hodge · Oct 30, 2012

Rob said:
just been out and double checked on my 89 7100hst, its the same as my DT.

maybe its not the pto shaft thats the prob, it may look different but may be ok sizewise.
Prehaps, its the impement shaft end that is a bit out.

rob

His tiller shaft would fit on my PTO shaft- it has the correct profile. His PTO shaft on the tractor is definitely different than mine- his has a ridge in the trough that mine doesn't, and the big ridge is huge compared to mine. I don't know what is going on with his tractor, but it isn't the profile of the tiller shaft; it is the pto shaft on the tractor.
http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/br549_red/?action=view&current=002-1.jpg
This is a photo of the pto shaft on my tractor.

Big Kahuna · Oct 30, 2012

Jhoss your tractor has pto shaft part #66204-14710 and cover #66706-12210 the pto that should have been used is part# 66706-14710 and cover is #67211-12212 it shows a break in the serial numbers at 20045 on a B7100HST E 2 wheel drive but that shaft is showen in my parts list and I don't know what else to say but it must of been sold over here for a reason.

Big Kahuna

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