Landpride fixed Bar Box Scraper (BB1260)

PWM3rd · Sep 5, 2014

Was using my box scraper yesterday to level ground that had just been cleared. Noticed my BB was not sitting flat to ground. Checked my Speeco quick hitch attach which was adjusted correctly. That's when I discovered this had happened??? No "freakin" idea what I did or may have hit while working the BB. Bottom line is I have to get it fixed. Ordered new left and right hand hitch straps that will be here on Tuesday. Around $28 dollars a piece plus $11 shipping. This had to have occurred while pushing dirt vs pulling?? Wondering if anyone has had this happen? Also, once I get the new straps on Tuesday...would it be worth my while to weld on some reinforcment pieces to each strap to make them a littler more "beefier"???

skeets · Sep 5, 2014

Its designed to pull, and it will push as well but you were pushin more than it was designed to push,, like I said they is made to pull

cerlawson · Sep 5, 2014

I'd not replace with same as old size. Put some beefier straps there. 1" ID pipe might work better than flats.

bmotojoe · Sep 5, 2014

Without welding that piece the top link attaches to the main frame, it will for sure happen again, major pivot point. My BB2572 plate material is 1/2" and where yours is bolted in one spot mine has two and the pin for the 3 point. After you receive your new parts I would remove that flat bar (with the single bolt), grind the paint off re-install all new and old parts reset connections with tractor and run a 100% continuous weld around that flat bar to main frame in the single bolt area.
Here is the way mine is bolted to the main frame.

BAP · Sep 5, 2014

That flat stock steel will bend easy under force. I would consider upgrading to some angle iron or weld reinforcement to the new pieces. Looks like Landpride cut corners by using flat stock.

Tooljunkie · Sep 5, 2014

A cross brace, like a collar tie, half way down crossways joining the two together. Can do it with new replacement pieces. Big gain for little work.

North Idaho Wolfman · Sep 5, 2014

Ok I've seen some oddly bent pieces of equipment over the years but that takes the cake!

Were you using the ripper teeth?

Did you back into something really solid like a tree of a tank?

That's the only way I can think of that bending like that.
The three point will rise when too much force is applied when pushing dirt in reverse, so it wasn't just pushing dirt!

TripleR · Sep 6, 2014

We've added reinforcement to some equipment and not other, always a balance between do you want to bend rather than break and replace or bend/break something on the equipment or tractor.

PWM3rd · Sep 6, 2014

North Idaho Wolfman said:
Ok I've seen some oddly bent pieces of equipment over the years but that takes the cake!

Were you using the ripper teeth?
Did you back into something really solid like a tree of a tank?
That's the only way I can think of that bending like that.
The three point will rise when too much force is applied when pushing dirt in reverse, so it wasn't just pushing dirt!

Wolfman,
Yes my teeth were down 1 notch from bottom of cutting blades. I sure don't remember hitting anything particularly hard but based on bending obviously did. With this being my first year of being a tractor owner, I find myself learning what exactly my tractor and attachments can/can't do. I do know that my BB has really made a "visual" change of property and really goes hand in hand with the FEL as far as work being done. Guess I will have to be a little more careful on what I ask it to do next time.

PWM3rd · Sep 6, 2014

TripleR said:
We've added reinforcement to some equipment and not other, always a balance between do you want to bend rather than break and replace or bend/break something on the equipment or tractor.

TripleR...Great point and thought...replacing the straps is alot cheaper than what could have been damaged or broken. Thanks for the thought.

cerlawson · Sep 6, 2014

An interesting fact that may enter. Steel has a property called "work hardening". If you pound the bent straps back to straight, they actually are then stronger than before. As an example take a piece of steel wire and bend it. Straighten it and try to bend again and it likely will bend in a different place.

So straightening it out is one step. The welding at ends helps also. However, I'd aslo attach that angle iron to the strap as a third step.

This thread (among others recently) is just one more reason why I'd give second thoughts about buying that brand.

Comments from a civil engineer.

cerlawson · Sep 6, 2014

Another comment: I did a search for "box blades". It seems each one I saw is built just like the one in this thread. In looking at the photos, it is quite clear that if the ripping teeth hit an immovable object, the rear inclined members will be in compression. In addition the weight of the box will resist the upward rotation of the box about the pins at the lift arms. So, what to do about it? Reinforce them I suppose.

Ezlife45 · Sep 6, 2014

As a Civil Engineer you ought to be able to appreciate Euler's Column Buckling.
I too have a LP scraper but don't have a huge tractor. Looking at some other designs, Some manufacturers have the back angle designed differently, others have beefier "A" frames going to the front where the ripper bars are mounted. Everything Attachments has a box scraper where the rear leg appears to be a small "C" channel. Likely stronger for instances like described above.
I can't remember where I saw it, but there is a manufacturer where the "A" frame is more like a huge shroud that almost goes all the way back to the rear scraper blade.

Lil Foot · Sep 6, 2014

I don't seem to have this problem….. sometimes the old iron is best.
Seriously, I would beef up those straps.

MtnViewRanch · Sep 6, 2014

This is EXACTLY what you get when it is said, "you get what you pay for".

You don't want problems, you need to pay more and get better stuff. The manufacturer's build different levels of implements to many different price points to serve many needs. Research and experience gets you what you actually need.

For noobies, they need to trust someone, just need to be able to know who to trust.

As far as Land Pride box blades, all one has to do is look and they can see the different styles and quality. 6 different build qualities.

cerlawson · Sep 6, 2014

I suppose we should stand back a little before we jump.

Here is a comment on previous page that makes sense.

"We've added reinforcement to some equipment and not other, always a balance between do you want to bend rather than break and replace or bend/break something on the equipment or tractor."

A balance between power and user experience or know how maybe should take priority as to what to do.

PWM3rd · Sep 10, 2014

TripleR said:
We've added reinforcement to some equipment and not other, always a balance between do you want to bend rather than break and replace or bend/break something on the equipment or tractor.

I received the new support straps for box scraper and installed easily. Decided to follow advise from OTT member TripleR. $50+ is less than breaking something that really gets into your pocket.

bcp · Sep 10, 2014

TripleR said:
We've added reinforcement to some equipment and not other, always a balance between do you want to bend rather than break and replace or bend/break something on the equipment or tractor.

Think of those bent bars as a fuse. They may have saved something much more expensive.

Bruce

Lil Foot · Sep 10, 2014

Think of those bent bars as a fuse. They may have saved something much more expensive.

You may be right….

Eric McCarthy · Sep 11, 2014

I'm thinking maybe on shitty box slipped through the cracks at Landpride that shouldn't have.

They make decent attachments for tractors and are purpose built for Kubotas.

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