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I was trying to suppress that little voice in my head that was saying the same thing ;) And yeah, the R4's have not done me any favours when I bury it in mud!

Thanks, on both accounts! Honestly, I forgot about the length. Looks like the 4802 is about 20-30" longer w/o PTO, plus a larger set of arms and bucket.... very good point! And turning radius and manoeuvrability in the woods is a big deal in my circumstances. The suggestion further down the...

If I read my father-in-law correctly, you get buried with your tractor ;)

Hey team orange! I "grew up" on my in-laws 80's era Kubota and so when it came time to get my own tractor I was looking through orange coloured glasses. My company designs and builds disc golf courses, often in thick forest so I had a few requirements; I needed a narrow width meaning fewer trees...