Historically diesel passenger.cars were noisy, hard starting, smoke belching turtles. Thats what Americans remember.
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Stellantis resurrects diesel cars across Europe
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100% correct!
But that was over 30 years ago. Then came modern direct injection Diesel engines. Surely customers must have noticed that they are not what they used to be. And with about 40% fuel savings it would be a no-brainer to me. Unless you only drive short distances, especially the modern Diesel cars take ages to heat up and everthing under 20-30 miles is a killer to them.
Btw: I love the old, noisy, smoke belching engines with no noticeable output power, like in the Mercedes type W115, 200D, 54hp (or was it 55hp?
). 0 to 60 mph in about 33 seconds; with air conditioning on and automatic gearbox that possibly changed to about 60 seconds). Very relaxed driving. You are behind a tractor, you stay behind the tractor, not a hope overtaking unless you have at least 2 miles of straight, empty road in front of you A few years later the OM648 3.2l with 500Nm at 1800 rpm was a beast of a machine.
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Consumers like EVs more.100% correct!
But that was over 30 years ago. Then came modern direct injection Diesel engines. Surely customers must have noticed that they are not what they used to be. And with about 40% fuel savings it would be a no-brainer to me. Unless you only drive short distances, especially the modern Diesel cars take ages to heat up and everthing under 20-30 miles is a killer to them.
Btw: I love the old, noisy, smoke belching engines with no noticeable output power, like in the Mercedes type W115, 200D. 0 to 60 mph in about 33 seconds. Very relaxed driving. You are behind a tractor, you stay behind the tractor, not a hope overtaking unless you have at least 2 miles of straight, empty road in front of you
Dan
At least in the U.S., ridiculous emissions controls on diesel vehicles is killing reliability and mileage. My BIL is considering replacing his diesel delivery trucks with gassers. The mileage would be atrocious, but at least he could keep them on the road.100% correct!
But that was over 30 years ago. Then came modern direct injection Diesel engines. Surely customers must have noticed that they are not what they used to be. And with about 40% fuel savings it would be a no-brainer to me. Unless you only drive short distances, especially the modern Diesel cars take ages to heat up and everthing under 20-30 miles is a killer to them.
Btw: I love the old, noisy, smoke belching engines with no noticeable output power, like in the Mercedes type W115, 200D, 54hp (or was it 55hp?
A few years later the OM648 3.2l with 500Nm at 1800 rpm was a beast of a machine.
Is it Cummins that's converting one of its diesels to gasoline?
The 6.7 for medium duty vehicles - not sure if its in production yet.
Their "fuel agnostic" roadmap targets LNG among others.
I would not be sure if Europe is behind in this respect.
I was told by an automotive engineer that the car fails the latest Euro 6 emission standard when you test it with the windows open. The fumes from the new interior plastics and fabric will make it fail.
Very clean emissions is normally achieved with optimised combustion; hence very low consumption. The fuel consumption is going down all the time despite the cars getting bigger and heavier and having more power.
Reliability would suffer with more and more complex systems, I agree. Lots of my friends are having problems with their Diesel particle filters and huge associated repair costs.
What ever happened to the guy that was building small hand built cars I think in the UK using KOBOTA diesel engine's? As I remember he claimed he was getting over 100 kilometers a liter or some such stilly ness
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You CAN get very high MPG, gas or diesel, if you accelerate at a very,very slow rate, get rid of the 'lead foot' and do a lot of coasting. There used to be 'MPG challenges in the USA every year', some 'vehicles' got HUGE MPG but NOT in real world driving conditions.
I'd like to know why diesel is $0.30 per liter MORE than gas here in southern Ontario this week.....
I'd like to know why diesel is $0.30 per liter MORE than gas here in southern Ontario this week.....
What difference does it make if he were a Mexican, or, for that matter, any other nationality?
For a website that says "no politics," many posts in this thread seem to be skirting that "no politics" policy.
You’re revealing YOUR bias…not mine. He was a Mexican National.…and the reason it was mentioned was because it revealed HER lack of bias and HER devotion to the man.. (That was 32 years ago and they’re now celebrating the birth of their 2nd grandchild.) Doh!
Oh…btw…what do you imagine MY ethnicity might be…..heh..?