A new ride

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Nice!! What makes the insurance cost less then your older car?

Your guess is as good as mine... Safer???

 

[Kennyd4110]

The fastest Cadillac is the Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, a performance luxury sedan powered by a 6.2L supercharged V8 engine producing 668 horsepower. It offers blistering acceleration, with a 0-60 mph time of around 3.4-3.7 seconds, and can achieve a top speed of over 200 mph.

Yup, its a Corvette wearing Cadillac clothes. Even comes with a manual transmission.

 

[BAP]

Is that built in China like some of the Cadillac SUVs are?

 

[xrocketengineer]

Congrats on your new ride! It looks very nice and it seems that you did your homework before you took the plunge.
I bought a 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SEL and I am very pleased with it. The electric range (38 miles max) is enough for the local trips and the level 1 (120 volts) charging is acceptable for our use. At low speeds under 20 mph it sounds like a classic movie flying saucer. It is very quiet even when the gas engine kicks in. Only under hard acceleration you can hear the engine. However, I have learned a couple of things along the way that you might want to to keep in mind.
When charging the battery, there is a lot of heat generated. The A/C system is used to cool the battery and therefore that heat has to go somewhere. I have a fridge and an electric water heater next to the car and in the summer time the temperature in the garage reaches 90+ degrees even at night. If the garage is closed, like at night, the localized temperature next to the wall charger gets so high that the wall charger trips and stops charging. So, I have to charge during the day when I can keep some fans and doors open for ventilation.
Another thing is that since the A/C is running during charging and we have so much humidity in Florida during the summer, there is a lot of condensation. A large plastic drip pan is needed under the engine compartment to collect all of the water and avoid a wet slippery floor.
One more thing to keep in mind when charging is that the warmer the weather is and the longer the A/C runs, the longer it takes to charge the battery since a lot of the power going into the car is being used to run the A/C. This is less of an issue with level 2 (240 volts) charging.
I have not learned anything about low temperatures.
Enjoy your car!

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Is that built in China like some of the Cadillac SUVs are?

Thanks for your concern, but I did not buy a chinese car.

For North American Buyers:
The Cadillac Lyric is assembled at Spring Hill Manufacturing plant in Tennessee.
The assembly in North America is a key requirement for vehicles to qualify for the federal tax credit.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Congrats on your new ride! It looks very nice and it seems that you did your homework before you took the plunge.
I bought a 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV SEL and I am very pleased with it. The electric range (38 miles max) is enough for the local trips and the level 1 (120 volts) charging is acceptable for our use. At low speeds under 20 mph it sounds like a classic movie flying saucer. It is very quiet even when the gas engine kicks in. Only under hard acceleration you can hear the engine. However, I have learned a couple of things along the way that you might want to to keep in mind.
When charging the battery, there is a lot of heat generated. The A/C system is used to cool the battery and therefore that heat has to go somewhere. I have a fridge and an electric water heater next to the car and in the summer time the temperature in the garage reaches 90+ degrees even at night. If the garage is closed, like at night, the localized temperature next to the wall charger gets so high that the wall charger trips and stops charging. So, I have to charge during the day when I can keep some fans and doors open for ventilation.
Another thing is that since the A/C is running during charging and we have so much humidity in Florida during the summer, there is a lot of condensation. A large plastic drip pan is needed under the engine compartment to collect all of the water and avoid a wet slippery floor.
One more thing to keep in mind when charging is that the warmer the weather is and the longer the A/C runs, the longer it takes to charge the battery since a lot of the power going into the car is being used to run the A/C. This is less of an issue with level 2 (240 volts) charging.
I have not learned anything about low temperatures.
Enjoy your car!

Hey your a rocket scientist, haven't you reengineered everything to make it work?

So far I have not noticed any of that but I will keep an eye on it for sure.
My garage has 4 windows that are open all summer, Garage temp in the summer stays around 66f.
In the winter it's heated to 60f.
We don't normally have high humidity so I might not notice condensation as much.
But if it does the garage has a full floor drain system that was designed to take the water from a fully snow / ice covered truck, car, tractor, or equipment so that won't be a concern either.
The circuit for the charger is 240V / 80 amp and done in copper and not aluminum wire to help keep wire and breaker temps in check, as I have read and seen issues with large current draw devices.
We'll see how it does over the winter, We have heard of issues with trying to charge them in cold temps,because it needs to heat the batteries to charge them but that won't an issue with us because of a heated garage.

 

[Hugo Habicht]

@North Idaho Wolfman : what I always wanted to know: are the 515hp and the torque continuous?

Background of my question is that I had to do with servo drives (ok, different application) in a former life and we used to put about 3 times the continuous current into the motor for accelerating.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

@North Idaho Wolfman : what I always wanted to know: are the 515hp and the torque continuous?

Background of my question is that I had to do with servo drives (ok, different application) in a former life and we used to put about 3 times the continuous current into the motor for accelerating.

It's shocking (PUN) the electrical requirement differences in electric motors of all types.
I have 2 battery powered drills and the old one has 1/4 the torque and run time of the new drill.

My wifes old car was a Cadillac SRX V6 AWD and I've always thought that was a zippy car.

 

[RCW]

Wolfman - just curiosity; what’s the curb weight of the new Cadillac?

SIL was looking at some light-duty EV pickup trucks a while back.

Was surprised how much they weighed before payload (8k +/-?).

Like I said before, my friend loves his hybrid, and he’s honestly the LAST guy you would think to drive one…..

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

When they start putting an LS in one then I might take a look,,

You know I had to read this again... The lyric V is even faster 0-60 than the CT5-V blackwing
The lyric V is 3.3 0-60, it just flat gets you moving like now!
We test drove one of those and all I have to say was WOW... I really wanted one!

 

[WFM]

First, that's a beautiful ride..it says...I have deep pockets !!!
But you do live in colder climate. No reservations about shorter mileage limits in winter ?
And electric costs must be way less then here in Maine.

 

[PaulL]

EVs aren't there for me at the moment.

The missus has the dog car (VW Touareg V8 diesel - which you don't get in the US I believe), and she drives all over the country for competitions. That vehicle also pulls the boat. EV not suitable for that use - not ideal for long distance driving (filling a tank is much faster than recharging), and EVs still aren't really there for towing, it hammers the range.

My car takes me to the city for work - 3 hours each way. I don't have good options to charge up there, and I can't do the 6 hour round trip on a single charge in any sensible car I can buy. So internal combustion for that as well (Audi S4 wagon, with the turbo V6).

We're moving south, and we'll need a ski vehicle. We can take the Touareg skiing, it's well capable of it. But it's an expensive car to hammer up and down gravel ski access roads. We'll get a Toyota Prado probably. Diesel. Because it'll tow the farm trailer, and because I'd like a ladder frame chassis and not to buy anything too new (planning to treat it mean).

My view is that there are lots of great uses for EVs. They go fast, and don't have a lot of moving parts to go wrong. For someone who drives to work and home every day, particularly if they can charge from solar, they make all the sense in the world. They're a brilliant second or third car. I'm not yet convinced they're ready to be rural people's only car.

There's probably an EV in my future, but it'd replace the Audi if anything. And I need my regular commute to be quite different than it is at the moment before that's practical.

As for heavy duty vehicles....to me most EVs rely on the fact that you only use full power for 5-10 seconds at a time, and the rest of the time you're using about 10% of the power. Great for a commuter car. Not good to replace a heavy diesel that actually runs at 80% of its rated power for 8-12 hours a day. I don't see electric tractors being practical any time soon, nor electric tow vehicles. In my mind that's totally OK. We don't need the whole economy to go electric, 70-80% is just fine. The last 20-30% isn't worth the effort, better off dealing with oil fired heating or restarting some nuclear industry.

 

[skeets]

You know I had to read this again... The lyric V is even faster 0-60 than the CT5-V blackwing
The lyric V is 3.3 0-60, it just flat gets you moving like now!
We test drove one of those and all I have to say was WOW... I really wanted one!

Yep that is impressive

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Wolfman - just curiosity; what’s the curb weight of the new Cadillac?

SIL was looking at some light-duty EV pickup trucks a while back.

Was surprised how much they weighed before payload (8k +/-?).

Like I said before, my friend loves his hybrid, and he’s honestly the LAST guy you would think to drive one…..

The curb weight for the 2025 all-wheel-drive (AWD) Cadillac Lyriq is around 5,838 pounds.
So yea its heavier than the 2008 SRX which was at 4164 lbs.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

First, that's a beautiful ride..it says...I have deep pockets !!!
But you do live in colder climate. No reservations about shorter mileage limits in winter ?
And electric costs must be way less then here in Maine.

Oh we are far from deep pocket types, we live pretty frugal for the most part.
Wife works from home 3 to 4 days a week and it's 15 miles to town and to her office there.
Sometimes no trips to town for work over the winter
We have a heated garage so our limits on distance are not as drastic as others without.
If we need to do a Airport trip ( Spokane, WA ) it well under the 300 mile range.
I do believe we have the cheapest electric around, and no peak time charge.
I'm pretty sure my shop pulls more electric than her car charging 5% to 10% once or twice a week.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

EVs aren't there for me at the moment.

The missus has the dog car (VW Touareg V8 diesel - which you don't get in the US I believe), and she drives all over the country for competitions. That vehicle also pulls the boat. EV not suitable for that use - not ideal for long distance driving (filling a tank is much faster than recharging), and EVs still aren't really there for towing, it hammers the range.

My car takes me to the city for work - 3 hours each way. I don't have good options to charge up there, and I can't do the 6 hour round trip on a single charge in any sensible car I can buy. So internal combustion for that as well (Audi S4 wagon, with the turbo V6).

We're moving south, and we'll need a ski vehicle. We can take the Touareg skiing, it's well capable of it. But it's an expensive car to hammer up and down gravel ski access roads. We'll get a Toyota Prado probably. Diesel. Because it'll tow the farm trailer, and because I'd like a ladder frame chassis and not to buy anything too new (planning to treat it mean).

My view is that there are lots of great uses for EVs. They go fast, and don't have a lot of moving parts to go wrong. For someone who drives to work and home every day, particularly if they can charge from solar, they make all the sense in the world. They're a brilliant second or third car. I'm not yet convinced they're ready to be rural people's only car.

There's probably an EV in my future, but it'd replace the Audi if anything. And I need my regular commute to be quite different than it is at the moment before that's practical.

As for heavy duty vehicles....to me most EVs rely on the fact that you only use full power for 5-10 seconds at a time, and the rest of the time you're using about 10% of the power. Great for a commuter car. Not good to replace a heavy diesel that actually runs at 80% of its rated power for 8-12 hours a day. I don't see electric tractors being practical any time soon, nor electric tow vehicles. In my mind that's totally OK. We don't need the whole economy to go electric, 70-80% is just fine. The last 20-30% isn't worth the effort, better off dealing with oil fired heating or restarting some nuclear industry.

I have a GMC 2500HD duramax diesel so we are not lacking in the Towing / Hauling department.
We also have 4 other cars and a Tahoe here to use, so it's not like the EV is our only other car.

 

[WFM]

In the last month here in Maine I've seen more new car/truck paper plates on the road then ever. That says people are confident in the economy i guess. I know Fords offering 2.9% on new F150s, what's the intrest rate on the new Caddy ?

 

[BAP]

In the last month here in Maine I've seen more new car/truck paper plates on the road then ever. That says people are confident in the economy i guess. I know Fords offering 2.9% on new F150s, what's the intrest rate on the new Caddy ?

Confident or a lot of leases ran out and it was time to turn over to a new one.

 

[McMXi]

I have a GMC 2500HD duramax diesel so we are not lacking in the Towing / Hauling department.
We also have 4 other cars and a Tahoe here to use, so it's not like the EV is our only other car.

That's the way to do it. There is no one vehicle that will do it all and do it well, even though a lot of SUV manufacturers would have us believe that it's possible.

I find myself every winter wondering what's the best (safest and most capable) vehicle for snow and ice. It's no fun in the winter heading over McDonald Pass to/from Helena driving a vehicle that is marginal. It's not a lot of fun on that pass driving a vehicle that is capable let alone marginal.

I imagine that the Lyriq has all kinds of clever systems to manage wheel slip given the torque available.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

That's the way to do it. There is no one vehicle that will do it all and do it well, even though a lot of SUV manufacturers would have us believe that it's possible.

I find myself every winter wondering what's the best (safest and most capable) vehicle for snow and ice. It's no fun in the winter heading over McDonald Pass to/from Helena driving a vehicle that is marginal. It's not a lot of fun on that pass driving a vehicle that is capable let alone marginal.

I imagine that the Lyriq has all kinds of clever systems to manage wheel slip given the torque available.

Yea it's going to be interesting to see how it handles in foul weather.
I have a feeling it's going to be wonderful to drive.