M5040 3 point hitch

[Sammy3700]

Have a m5040 3 point hitch is operating backwards with control handle thanks for any thoughts

 

[GeoHorn]

PUsh lever FWD / DN the lift arms go Down…and pull lever AFT / UP and the lift arms go UP…. right?

 

[Sammy3700]

Exactly backwards I am thinking some lines are crossed as this was a basket case was abused and it has a woods loader tring to find a schematic of the lines today emailed woods hopefully they will come through

 

[Russell King]

So you just got the tractor? Has it always been acting the same or did it work properly and then change?

You have an FEL and that is made by Woods. So did anyone change or work on anything concerning the FEL?

How are the lines between the tractor and the FEL connected? You can probably post pictures of the connection at the tractor. There may be a knob for a valve that is not turned in the correct position.

I don't really understand how it could be working backwards on the three point hitch since it is basically a single acting cylinder. Or does your tractor have some sort of external cylinders involved with the three point hitch?

Is the back hoe removed?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

It's not a hydraulic line connection, it's near to impossible to change the flow of that system.

Your not adjusting the draft control lever are you?

 

[PoTreeBoy]

Exactly backwards I am thinking some lines are crossed as this was a basket case was abused and it has a woods loader tring to find a schematic of the lines today emailed woods hopefully they will come through

It has external cylinders, but it wouldn't lift at all if the lines were crossed. I haven't thought this out, but check that the feedback and draft control linkages are correct.

 

[Sammy3700]

Thanks to all we just got the tractor and the hoses were all removed

 

[Russell King]

Then I have to assume you put hoses on incorrectly. Did you follow any diagram or just use educated guess methods? Or do you have experience and knowledge in the hydraulics field?

You could remove any hoses between the FEL and the tractor to simplify the system and insure that is working properly. But there should only be three hoses between the tractor and FEL to get connected properly. It sounds like the neutral circuit (power beyond) is reversed with the tank return line or something.

Take some time and research how the FEL is supposed to connect to the tractor. If you take some pictures of how it is connected currently and post them then someone may be able to help you out.

 

[Sammy3700]

Will try swapping the power beyond and neutral hose don’t have any of the manual for tractor or loader have not been able to find the loader on woods site

 

[TheOldHokie]

Will try swapping the power beyond and neutral hose don’t have any of the manual for tractor or loader have not been able to find the loader on woods site

The power beyond hose IS the neutral hose. I think you need sone guidance.

Dan

 

[Sammy3700]

Ok just swapped the hoses and the rear 3pt doesn’t move at all so put them back the way I had them and lift works just backwards again
I have worked on old 8n fords and have added 3rd function and backhoe on both of my L3800 but this is my first attempt on a M series is there any chance the draft controls can cause this I know on old fords they could cause problems guessing at this point have to check the linkages closer it’s got to be something simple

 

[TheOldHokie]

Ok just swapped the hoses and the rear 3pt doesn’t move at all so put them back the way I had them and lift works just backwards again
I have worked on old 8n fords and have added 3rd function and backhoe on both of my L3800 but this is my first attempt on a M series is there any chance the draft controls can cause this I know on old fords they could cause problems guessing at this point have to check the linkages closer it’s got to be something simple

You swapped the loader tank and power connections cutting off all flow to the 3pt. The problem is not the hydrsulic plumbing.

Please post a picture of the draft and position control lever positions.

Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

Ok just swapped the hoses and the rear 3pt doesn’t move at all so put them back the way I had them and lift works just backwards again
I have worked on old 8n fords and have added 3rd function and backhoe on both of my L3800 but this is my first attempt on a M series is there any chance the draft controls can cause this I know on old fords they could cause problems guessing at this point have to check the linkages closer it’s got to be something simple

Which lever are you using to raise and lowet the 3pt?

Dan

 

[Sammy3700]

Thanks Dan I am thinking it is in the control handles the back ground is my friend was given this tractor with a blown engine it was used in a chicken house operation and only the draw bar and pto were used for a number of years the loader was off and 3 point was tied up and rops has also been cut off I will take pictures when I go over to it

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks Dan I am thinking it is in the control handles the back ground is my friend was given this tractor with a blown engine it was used in a chicken house operation and only the draw bar and pto were used for a number of years the loader was off and 3 point was tied up and rops has also been cut off I will take pictures when I go over to it

History is not really relevant. The only way the 3pt lever can work in reverse is if the internal linkage is moving in reverse. Position control moves it one way and draft moves it the opposite.

Dan