Gasoline Particulate Filters

[GreensvilleJay]

If ( IF ) the EPA wanted to do the right thing, they'd get the guv to BAN all tobacco products, tomorrow. we'd all be living far healthier lives

 

[jimh406]

If ( IF ) the EPA wanted to do the right thing, they'd get the guv to BAN all tobacco products, tomorrow. we'd all be living far healthier lives

Not sure ... you guys up North seem to be doing ok without an EPA. Fwiw, we seem to be legalizing more things that give off smoke including wacky tobacco.

 

[The Evil Twin]

The original post that created this discussion was the hope of elimination of the EPA. Without enforcement of the clean air and water acts, how long would it be before the dirty 70s returns? Now if we are discussing different ways of achieving clean air and water, then that’s different. But in truth, people are driving vehicles with modern emission technologies every day and most don’t have issues. I know that I never had a problem with my TDI car, and it had regenerations periodically without causing any concerns.

Exactly. Your (I assume diesel diesel TDI, but a TDI engine is not exclusively diesel) and my truck (diesel) are probably cleaner than most gas engines. So why make the emissions systems more complicated, expensive and less reliable? It's only to make them less desirable.
Enforcing EXISTING laws are not going to return us to the 70s you fear. Like you said: rivers don't burn anymore. So we are good. No need to get stupid with restrictions. Unless there is another agenda.

 

[DustyRusty]

The government doesn't ban smoking because they want the tax money that it brings into the coffers. They also know that smokers die on average a lot younger and the government can keep their social security contributions and never pay out a dime. Always follow the money and where the money flows, will show why regulations are in place. The US government has proposed taking away gas cooking stoves. We already have a shortage of electric generation but they want to create more electrical appliances to replace those that use natural or propane gas. It is all about control and the money.

 

[jyoutz]

Exactly. Your (I assume diesel diesel TDI, but a TDI engine is not exclusively diesel) and my truck (diesel) are probably cleaner than most gas engines. So why make the emissions systems more complicated, expensive and less reliable? It's only to make them less desirable.
Enforcing EXISTING laws are not going to return us to the 70s you fear. Like you said: rivers don't burn anymore. So we are good. No need to get stupid with restrictions. Unless there is another agenda.

No EPA, no enforcement of existing laws. That was the original discussion.

 

[jyoutz]

The government doesn't ban smoking because they want the tax money that it brings into the coffers. They also know that smokers die on average a lot younger and the government can keep their social security contributions and never pay out a dime. Always follow the money and where the money flows, will show why regulations are in place. The US government has proposed taking away gas cooking stoves. We already have a shortage of electric generation but they want to create more electrical appliances to replace those that use natural or propane gas. It is all about control and the money.

Some states have proposed banning the sale of gas stoves, not the U.S. government.

 

[The Evil Twin]

No EPA, no enforcement of existing laws. That was the original discussion.

That's like saying if MADD were to dissolve or disband, no one would enforce the BAC limit for drunk driving.
The EPA isn't at the truck stops and inspection stations. Those that are inpecting the trucks are MCS State Police or private employees of a business. The EPA doesn't enforce anything. The DOJ and the courts do.

 

[jyoutz]

That's like saying if MADD were to dissolve or disband, no one would enforce the BAC limit for drunk driving.
The EPA isn't at the truck stops and inspection stations. Those that are inpecting the trucks are MCS State Police or private employees of a business. The EPA doesn't enforce anything. The DOJ and the courts do.

The EPA develops standards for the clean air and water acts. Then they provide grant funds to and work with state agencies to enforce them. My state has a department of environmental quality that enforces these things using the EPA funds and assistance. For example, there are standards for roads crossing streams and logging project clean up, reseeding, and other operations to protect water quality. There are also standards for the oil field operations. Recent changes to the standards changed oil field water pits because too many bird and wildlife were being killed in these pits. Other changes reduced flaring of wells to reduce methane emissions and to recapture the natural gas that was previously wasted. This reduced air pollution, while avoiding the wastes of natural gas. These operations all come from the laws and EPA standards and industry didn’t adopt them on their own. All states have enforcement agencies that work with and are funded by EPA to enforce clean air and water acts.