Initial purchase list vs "wish list"

DenmanBC

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Thanks to all the useful advice that I have received based on my initial post. Based on all that advice and the jobs I want a tractor for, I am preparing to order an L3302 or L3902. I have been totally convinced that the BX is too small for my needs and the L4802 frame (or bigger tractors) is too big for maintaining some of the established forest trails. Now that I am "set" on the tractor I am preparing my "must have" vs "nice to have list". I am hoping that some of the experienced members can weigh in.

Tractor - order pending L3302 or L3902 HST with FEL

R14 ballast filled tires

Implements
- Rotary cutter 72" vs 60"
- Box Blade BB12 vs BB15
- Grapple SGC06 vs SGC10

Brush Guard - Front Grill vs Front and side grills

3rd function valve - diverter vs true 3rd function

? rear hydraulic function to tilt boxblade
? Quick hitch for rear
? PTO quick link

Am I missing anything "essential"? Are there "unnecessary" things on the list?
 

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Good day.

I don’t know you or your tasks, but maybe don’t forget / consider that if make sense:

1. Pallet Forks are very helpful…if I could only have one implement on the list it would be the forks…JMHO. (Maybe some lifting straps)

2. Additional lighting if you ever plan to be out after dark. I’m f so you will soon find out that the bucket covers the headlights pretty effectively.

3. Depending on your uses maybe a canopy.

4. If you are not a welder, this would be an excellent time to ask your dealer to add some bucket hooks, and / or front hitch on the bucket.

5. Maybe decide if would want a ballast box or will just use an implement…not sure what your implements weigh, but I’d think a bout how plan to rear ballast the machine.

6. How will you carry tools and other kit around your place? Carry all or maybe something else? If tree down on your trail I assume you may be doing some tree work from time to time…maybe consider if need anything for how plan to carry gear / tools / etc.

Good luck👍
 
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Loaded rear tires.

I think R4s are more durable than R14s if you work in wooded areas bush hogging.
 
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Good day.

I don’t know you or your tasks, but maybe don’t forget / consider that if make sense:

1. Pallet Forks are very helpful…if I could only have one implement on the list it would be the forks…JMHO.

2. Additional lighting if you ever plan to be out after dark. I’m f so you will soon find out that the bucket covers the headlights pretty effectively.

3. Depending on your uses maybe a canopy.

4. If you are not a welder, this would be an excellent time to ask your dealer to add some bucket hooks, and / or front hitch on the bucket.

5. Maybe decide if would want a ballast box or will just use an implement…not sure what your implements weigh, but I’d think a bout how plan to rear ballast the machine.

6. How will you carry tools and other kit around your place? Carry all or maybe something else? If tree down on your trail I assume you may be doing some tree work from time to time…maybe consider if need anything for how plan to carry gear / tools / etc.

Good luck👍
Lots of good suggestions. Thanks. I'm kind of a tractor newbie and hadn't really considered pallet forks. Other than "picking up pallets" why do you find them very helpful?

I am definitely considering a rain/sun cover but in my area weather is pretty moderate for most part so don't think a full canopy is worth the $ at this point.

The bucket hooks are a good idea. I will add the to "the list"

In terms of carrying stuff the new L02 series come with standard tool box and I plan to add a chainsaw carrier and some heavy duty magnets with velcro straps .

Thanks again
 

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Loaded rear tires.

I think R4s are more durable than R14s if you work in wooded areas bush hogging.
I definitely plan to get the beet juice filled rear tires. In terms of the R4's vs R14's I am not totally decided. The R14's were recommended by a local guy who loves them. I definitely need to do more research on the tire tread issue.

Thanks for the advice
 
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Lots of good suggestions. Thanks. I'm kind of a tractor newbie and hadn't really considered pallet forks. Other than "picking up pallets" why do you find them very helpful?

I am definitely considering a rain/sun cover but in my area weather is pretty moderate for most part so don't think a full canopy is worth the $ at this point.

The bucket hooks are a good idea. I will add the to "the list"

In terms of carrying stuff the new L02 series come with standard tool box and I plan to add a chainsaw carrier and some heavy duty magnets with velcro straps .

Thanks again
Good day. Sounds like you are off to a good start.

pallet forks can lift anything you have in your truck or trailer…could be a pallet of bagged mulch, pavers, rocks or whatever you set on there.

you can also use forks and straps to lift implements or other items to move.

tote or palletized firewood or other put tools and gear on a pallet or tote.

I’ve set plywood across mine before for a makeshift workbench/table in the woods.

I even use mine to aerate my compost pile.

anyway they have lots of uses potentially.

I store a lot of items on pallets in my shop, including implements and it just makes it easy to move things around or set things onto a dolly to where you can roll implements or other items around.

Helpful tipping an observation tower too.

I use mine more than a bucket.
 
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Good day. Sounds like you are off to a good start.

pallet forks can lift anything you have in your truck or trailer…could be a pallet of bagged mulch, pavers, rocks or whatever you set on there.

you can also use forks and straps to lift implements or other items to move.

tote or palletized firewood or other put tools and gear on a pallet or tote.

I’ve set plywood across mine before for a makeshift workbench/table in the woods.

I even use mine to aerate my compost pile.

anyway they have lots of uses potentially.

I store a lot of items on pallets in my shop, including implements and it just makes it easy to move things around or set things onto a dolly to where you can roll implements or other items around.

Helpful tipping an observation tower too.

I use mine more than a bucket.
That does sound super useful. Pallet forks are going on the list. Thanks
 
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Thanks to all the useful advice that I have received based on my initial post. Based on all that advice and the jobs I want a tractor for, I am preparing to order an L3302 or L3902. I have been totally convinced that the BX is too small for my needs and the L4802 frame (or bigger tractors) is too big for maintaining some of the established forest trails. Now that I am "set" on the tractor I am preparing my "must have" vs "nice to have list". I am hoping that some of the experienced members can weigh in.

Tractor - order pending L3302 or L3902 HST with FEL

R14 ballast filled tires

Implements
- Rotary cutter 72" vs 60"
- Box Blade BB12 vs BB15
- Grapple SGC06 vs SGC10

Brush Guard - Front Grill vs Front and side grills

3rd function valve - diverter vs true 3rd function

? rear hydraulic function to tilt boxblade
? Quick hitch for rear
? PTO quick link

Am I missing anything "essential"? Are there "unnecessary" things on the list?
True after market third function

Front grill guard a must - plywood works good and is cheap.
 
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If you are going to be at least in DPF land, I'd buy the 3902 if you are set on regular L. I'd also consider the LX since you are wanting "smaller".

You don't mention what you plan to do with each implement. The grapple requires a 3rd function valve which ups the price quite a lot. You can lift a lot of the same things with pallet forks. For my use to maintain our gravel road and level land, I have a grader/scraper. It's not even close which is easier.

A quick hitch is good for switching between attachments a lot. In practice, I find I don't switch that often.

I went with R4s for more capacity and strength over R14s.
 
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Regarding the choice between a diverter valve or true 3rd function, I recommend a true 3rd function valve. A diverter valve is an electrically controlled valve that selects between your bucket curl hydraulics and your accessory (e.g. grapple) hydraulics, therefor you cannot simultaneously close your grapple and curl it. A true 3rd function valve allows simultaneous closing and curling (a common need with a grapple) without having to throw a switch back and forth.

Regarding your choice of grapple between the Land Pride SGC06 and SGC10, the SGC1060 weighs 150 lbs more than the SGC0660 and that directly reduces the load you can lift with it. You need to consider whether or not the heavier construction of the SGC1060 is more important than its reduced lift capacity based on what you plan to do with it. I have the SGC0660 on my LX4020 and have found it to be sufficiently strong for the logs, boulders, and brush piles I have moved with it and am glad to have the extra 150 lbs of payload I would not have with the heavier SGC1060.
 

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Thanks to all the useful advice that I have received based on my initial post. Based on all that advice and the jobs I want a tractor for, I am preparing to order an L3302 or L3902. I have been totally convinced that the BX is too small for my needs and the L4802 frame (or bigger tractors) is too big for maintaining some of the established forest trails. Now that I am "set" on the tractor I am preparing my "must have" vs "nice to have list". I am hoping that some of the experienced members can weigh in.

Tractor - order pending L3302 or L3902 HST with FEL

R14 ballast filled tires

Implements
- Rotary cutter 72" vs 60"
- Box Blade BB12 vs BB15
- Grapple SGC06 vs SGC10

Brush Guard - Front Grill vs Front and side grills

3rd function valve - diverter vs true 3rd function

? rear hydraulic function to tilt boxblade
? Quick hitch for rear
? PTO quick link

Am I missing anything "essential"? Are there "unnecessary" things on the list?
If you are going to be working in a large area with the rotary cutter a nice feature to add is the cruise control. I had the dealer throw it in the deal last year when I bought the L3902 for mowing and it sure is nice to have. Good luck.
 
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Thanks to all the useful advice that I have received based on my initial post. Based on all that advice and the jobs I want a tractor for, I am preparing to order an L3302 or L3902. I have been totally convinced that the BX is too small for my needs and the L4802 frame (or bigger tractors) is too big for maintaining some of the established forest trails. Now that I am "set" on the tractor I am preparing my "must have" vs "nice to have list". I am hoping that some of the experienced members can weigh in.

Tractor - order pending L3302 or L3902 HST with FEL

R14 ballast filled tires

Implements
- Rotary cutter 72" vs 60"
- Box Blade BB12 vs BB15
- Grapple SGC06 vs SGC10

Brush Guard - Front Grill vs Front and side grills

3rd function valve - diverter vs true 3rd function

? rear hydraulic function to tilt boxblade
? Quick hitch for rear
? PTO quick link

Am I missing anything "essential"? Are there "unnecessary" things on the list?
I'll comment on just a few.
* Get a 72" medium duty cutter RCR1872 if LandPride
* True 3rd function. The FEL valves have special features that you most likely don't want a diverter to 'inherit'.
* I got the SGC1060 for my L35. It's made of heavier material and protects the hoses better than the 06. I think the pivots are better, but I don't remember for sure. The tines are closer together, which can be an advantage or disadvantage. The claw style may be more versatile, but a long bottom style would have handled more cut brush etc., I think. For occasional use, the 06 would work, I'm sure.
 
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If you are going to be at least in DPF land, I'd buy the 3902 if you are set on regular L. I'd also consider the LX since you are wanting "smaller".

You don't mention what you plan to do with each implement. The grapple requires a 3rd function valve which ups the price quite a lot. You can lift a lot of the same things with pallet forks. For my use to maintain our gravel road and level land, I have a grader/scraper. It's not even close which is easier.

A quick hitch is good for switching between attachments a lot. In practice, I find I don't switch that often.

I went with R4s for more capacity and strength over R14s.
Thanks. I am leaning L3902.

I have a lot of heavily grown in brambles (blackberry) and broom and was thinking a Grapple to tear them out and rake out the roots would be useful. I also have a moderate amount of piles of heavy Douglas fir branches to move. The Grapple seems like a good idea, but a few people have suggested saving $ and using pallet forks. Something to consider.

In what way do R4s have more capacity and strength than R14s??

Cheers
 

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I'll comment on just a few.
* Get a 72" medium duty cutter RCR1872 if LandPride
* True 3rd function. The FEL valves have special features that you most likely don't want a diverter to 'inherit'.
* I got the SGC1060 for my L35. It's made of heavier material and protects the hoses better than the 06. I think the pivots are better, but I don't remember for sure. The tines are closer together, which can be an advantage or disadvantage. The claw style may be more versatile, but a long bottom style would have handled more cut brush etc., I think. For occasional use, the 06 would work, I'm sure.
Super. Thanks
 

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Thanks. I am leaning L3902.

I have a lot of heavily grown in brambles (blackberry) and broom and was thinking a Grapple to tear them out and rake out the roots would be useful. I also have a moderate amount of piles of heavy Douglas fir branches to move. The Grapple seems like a good idea, but a few people have suggested saving $ and using pallet forks. Something to consider.

In what way do R4s have more capacity and strength than R14s??

Cheers
I have forks and for what you are looking to do I would recommend the grapple. I purchased one last year and am amazed how much I use it and how it helps with storm cleanup, firewood processing and general clean up around the ole farm place.
 
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If my tractor and I were stranded on Gilligans Island, and I could only have a front implement and a rear one, I would pick Forks for the front and Backhoe for the rear.

However, my grapple is a close second to the forks. It gets lots of use.






Now that I have settled that, there remains only one question of which one would you pick?

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If my tractor and I were stranded on Gilligans Island, and I could only have a front implement and a rear one, I would pick Forks for the front and Backhoe for the rear.

However, my grapple is a close second to the forks. It gets lots of use.






Now that I have settled that, there remains only one question of which one would you pick?

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Ginger, hands down.

but I agree BH are an awesome implement!
 

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Thanks to all the useful advice that I have received based on my initial post. Based on all that advice and the jobs I want a tractor for, I am preparing to order an L3302 or L3902. I have been totally convinced that the BX is too small for my needs and the L4802 frame (or bigger tractors) is too big for maintaining some of the established forest trails. Now that I am "set" on the tractor I am preparing my "must have" vs "nice to have list". I am hoping that some of the experienced members can weigh in.

Tractor - order pending L3302 or L3902 HST with FEL

R14 ballast filled tires

Implements
- Rotary cutter 72" vs 60"
- Box Blade BB12 vs BB15
- Grapple SGC06 vs SGC10

Brush Guard - Front Grill vs Front and side grills

3rd function valve - diverter vs true 3rd function

? rear hydraulic function to tilt boxblade
? Quick hitch for rear
? PTO quick link

Am I missing anything "essential"? Are there "unnecessary" things on the list?
As others have noted, R4s are more construction focused, and heavier duty. Probably doesn't matter, but if you do get a puncture in the woods you'll be thinking "wish I got the R14s". To me you get the R14s if you have a specific reason for it, the default is the R4s. You didn't have a lot of lawn type work where the R14s might be easier on the lawn. If you are, then R14s make sense, but otherwise, I'd go R4.

I'd go true 3rd function if the cost difference isn't much. They both work, the true 3rd function would be nicer. I'd guess when you're buying it there's not too much price difference, changing later is a big price difference (the diverter spend is wasted when you take it off).

I personally have no rear outlets, no quick hitch, and I don't really know what a PTO quick link is but I don't think you need one. My tractor is a bit smaller, so I can horse my implements around a bit, but I find once you get the hang of how a 3ph works you can do a lot using the machine hydraulics - once you get one side on you're pretty much off as you can push/pull with the tractor. Most of my implements sit on concrete, so I built dollies for them - I can roll them around. You may not have that luxury with a box blade and a rotary cutter - they're probably too big.

Of the three you list, quick hitch would be my first choice, it would be a big improvement on horsing implements if they're heavier and on gravel or dirt. Quick link sounds like something that would go wrong, and it's not hard to connect a PTO shaft. Doesn't sound like you'll be swapping implements every 5 minutes to get benefit from it.

Outlets are mixed. Plenty of people don't have them. Those who have them swear by them. But they would.... Neil from Messicks had a video on his tractor the other day, and he'd put a hydraulic top link on. He didn't really love it - because it had no check valve and leaked down all the time. If you're not using it all the time, I'd say you'd be better with manual adjustment. It also depends what you're doing with your box blade and how much fine adjustment you need - when I use rear implements I tend to set them and leave them, but if you're up and down all the time you may need to feather it a lot.

I have pallet forks and use them a lot. When I go to do work I typically take a bunch of tools. If it's not too many they go in the bucket. If it's lots and lots, I have a pallet that goes on the forks, and all the tools go on that. I also use it as a work platform for picking fruit, pruning trees and a bunch of other stuff. It's not the pallet forks so much, as the ability to put a platform/carry all on the front of your machine.
 
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