The H.O. numbers are impressive with 500 hp at 2,600 rpm and 1,200 lb-ft at 1,600 rpm.
In search of a better truck for towing the M6060 and folding cutter.
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We use the Motorcraft coolant on all the newer stuff. Ford went through a coolant shuffle over the last 5 years or so from green, red, orange, yellow, gold, and now back to a yellow, we didn't want to mess with the universal stuff and so far it's worked out just fine, even when converting over to the new standard.
now imagine those numbers if you contact someone north of the border....
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That sure is a FINE looking F-450 truck!
I wish you many happy hauling/driving miles!
I wish you many happy hauling/driving miles!
I buy Motorcraft coolant (gold pre-mixed) for the F-250 and will stop by the Ford dealership tomorrow and pick up whatever magic potion is recommended for the F-450.
Thanks!
It can take days, weeks or months to really know and appreciate a "new" vehicle. I'm just now starting to realize how much easier it is to open and close the doors, tailgate and hood on this '24 F-450 compared to my '02 F-250. The difference is really noticeable, and it's due in large part to the use of aluminum throughout the truck which makes each component significantly lighter. Most aluminum alloys are about 1/3 the weight of steel alloys and you can really feel that difference. I'm not sure if other truck manufacturers use aluminum for the body and bed, but I'm liking it in this truck.
No doubt I'll notice more differences as time passes.
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Aluminum has a lot of positives. It also has a negative: body shops can’t straighten them, they replace the body panels.
I'm ok with the lack of corrosion and the weight savings that are guaranteed with aluminum vs. the possibility of needing to take the truck to a repair shop. Frankly I would much prefer a new fender, door, bed or body panel over a steel one that has been stretched, pulled, hammered, welded and skim coated.
They are all starting to include aluminum body panels. I seem to remember that the new GM trucks now have aluminum doors and hood.
The main benefit to aluminum bodies is to those who live where the roads are salted in the winter. I watched a comparison not long ago where various brands of pickups from the rust belt, all 10 years old, were compared as far as body integrity. The aluminum body Fords were still pristine. All the others had various degrees of body panel rust.
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Which means nothing to me. Our highway department spreads sand and cinders instead of salt. No vehicles rust here.
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Do you know why the dealer had a 1 year old 17,000 mile truck to sell? That would be a huge red flag to me without a valid reason. Sounds like someone unloaded a problem vehicle.
It's not usually scandalous:
>Original owner traded up or traded down. That is generally a lot of miles on a 1 year old truck. Great way to break an engine in, btw. Maybe it was used as RV hauler and they 'traded up' to a motor home. Or it was used commercially crossing states hauling cars.
>Or a Repo, (these trucks are more expensive than my first couple houses cost). A repo isn't necessarily a bad thing. The previous owner could have passed away, lost his job, or just got in in over his head.
>Short term commercial lease.
>Demonstration vehicle
In my experience, most dealers will tell you why. It may even be the law to do so in some places.
A friend of mine recently bought a new 2024 $28,000 BMW motorcycle, kept it 6 months and traded it in for a smaller bike. The GSA was just to big for him. Traded it in for a new BMW R18.
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Not only do I have the Carfax report but also the Ford service history which shows no issues whatsoever. The truck comes with an additional 1 year/12,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty giving it 4 years/48,000 miles. Also an additional 2 years/40,000 miles on the powertrain warranty taking it out to 7 years/100,000 miles. If that weren't enough, it's covered by Ford's Gold Certified program which I doubt they're going to do with a "problem" vehicle.
So in your world, the only reason the truck was returned is because it's "a problem vehicle"? That's the only possible explanation? Really? I sold my MX6000 after less than a year of ownership with 103 hours on the engine. Was that a problem vehicle?
Here are just a few reasons to sell a new vehicle after a year of ownership:
Divorce
Loss of employment
Bankruptcy
Health issues
Medical expenses
Death
Insurance costs
Registration costs
Payments too high
Repossession
Buying a house or property
Want/need a different vehicle
No longer need to tow a big trailer
Law suit
Cash flow
Unhappy wife
The F-450 is a big truck, and if you're not going to use it for towing then there are better/cheaper/smaller options.
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Not necessarily. People's situations change and so they make the necessary changes to accommodate the new situation. Two years ago I bought a 2022 Toyota 4Runner with just under 3000 miles on the odometer. It was at a Nissan dealership and whoever owned it apparently realized a 4Runner isn't a good economical commuter and traded for a small car. The 4Runner now has over 21,000 miles on it and has been flawless. I used to own a Mustang GT convertible and soon realized buying it was a mistake - I rarely used it so I traded for an SUV that I put over 300,000 miles on. The Mustang was just barely broken in. And just a few months ago I sold a very low miles F150 because after buying the 4Runner the F150 wasn't being used anymore, it just sat in the garage collecting dust.
Carfax indicates "type of owner - personal" but who knows.
Truck built: 11/08/23
Released by Ford: 11/13/23
Arrived at dealer in Austin, TX: 11/24/23
Sold: 12/04/23
Registered in Idaho: 12/19/23 (118 miles on the odometer)
Offered for sale at Lewiston Motor Company in Lewiston, ID: 02/02/25 (17,601 miles on the odometer)
Purchased by the local Kalispell Ford dealer: 02/07/25 (17,625 miles on odometer)
The odometer readings indicate that it was transported from TX to ID and from ID to MT. Typical mileage is 12,000 miles per year but this owner drove the truck about 15,000 miles per year which isn't unreasonable. Perhaps they were moving from TX to ID or commuting for work, or had a girlfiend 600 miles away (I've been there and done that).
Given the condition of the interior and exterior, whoever owned it took really good care of it. I have no reason to assume that the owner didn't look after the engine and transmission as well i.e. drove it in a manner consistent with having it last many years. All vehicle purchases whether new or used carry risk. I don't see this purchase as having any additionl risk than any other purchase I've made.
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Exactly! There are numerous reasons as to why people sell a car, truck, tractor, boat or whatever after only owning it for a short time. I bet many sell boats a year after they buy one!
The white F-450 that I looked at was purchased by the local dealer from a Canadian individual who buys a new Ford every year under some employee program and sells it a year later for a substantial profit. Supposedly the local dealer buys 10 or more low-mileage vehicles from this family every year. Apparently there's some law about the mileage on a vehicle being imported from Canada into the US, so the family put on enough miles to comply with that law.
This owner might have bought the truck on an employee program too, and sold it for a profit. Ultimately it doesn't matter since I'm not likely to meet the previous owner or ever learn why it was purchased or what it was used for.
I think this thread has run its course and I apologize to anyone who is sick to death of it .... I know I'm getting there! I'm going to enjoy the truck, continue to learn about the numerous features and will eventually report back once I have some meaningful information to share.
I have many friends who get a stipend from their company for a truck. Rules are that it has to be under so many years old and under xxx mileage or they lose the money. Very possible that was the case, or just a hauler who cared and bought a new truck yearly.
I like the thread, mainly because I liked the journey to the truck, I also work on and look at this stuff daily/ I'm looking forward to your impressions when hauling with it. Maybe you'll make a new one when you get a chance to hook up the trailer to it!
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I know the reason I got my truck was because the local farmer trades his truck in every two years for the write off.
I told him keep the next one in good shape too so I can potentially upgrade in two years.
I told him keep the next one in good shape too so I can potentially upgrade in two years.
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I agree with BAP's sentiments also.
People trade vehicles for a lot of reasons.
In this case looks like @McMXi did his due diligence to dispel the mechanical concerns by checking service history, etc.
One would have to assume anything major would have gone through Ford's Warranty Program and show up.
A lot of folks don't do that homework and get stung. Seen it happen many times.....
I recently read that the liquid de icer used in some states is causing issues with aluminum corroding. Normally aluminum builds a oxide that protects itself but the chemicals in the new de icers cut through that and attack the base metal. Seeing damage on big rigs that are using aluminum in those states at this point.