Arctic Cat...RIP

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I was reading an article that Textron had bought arctic cat a couple yrs ago.
But as of December 2024 had holted the snowmobile production. Sighting low sales.
1960-2024.
A powerhouse in their hayday.
Its sad to see them go.
Just like Johnson & Evenrude.
 
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Don't believe it for a minute.

The Arctic Cat name is not going away.

Some other company will buy it and keep it going. It's TOO big a name to give up.

Just like Indian Motorcycles.... who was taken over by Polaris.

Kind of Ironic actually.... Because Arctic Cat has been getting it's azz kicked by Polaris sleds badly in the last few years....


So who knows.... Polaris could very well end up with the Arctic Cat brand,

One thing for sure. Arctic Cat is NOT dead.
 
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They're only an hour's drive from my place. Very sad for the twon and all of northwestern Mn that they drew workers from. It sounds like they will fulfill their current contract orders and try support the existing sleds with parts for as long as possible. Arctice Cat was a big economic employer for northwest MN.

Not hard to see the writing on the wall, though. Fewer and fewer snowmobiles being bought and ridden around here every year. The last few years you were lucky to see a set of tracks after a fresh snowfall. I don't think it helped any that the sleds became so big, fast and expensive that they virtually priced themselves out of the majority of the people here that used to have one, two, three or more per family.
 
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The name may go on. That doesn't mean it will be the same. More info:
 

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I remember back when the EXT hit the streets(snow).
 

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Don't believe it for a minute.

The Arctic Cat name is not going away.

Some other company will buy it and keep it going. It's TOO big a name to give up.

Just like Indian Motorcycles.... who was taken over by Polaris.

Kind of Ironic actually.... Because Arctic Cat has been getting it's azz kicked by Polaris sleds badly in the last few years....


So who knows.... Polaris could very well end up with the Arctic Cat brand,

One thing for sure. Arctic Cat is NOT dead.
I agree... their announcements was about justifying closing 2 plants in MN.

They didn't mention ceasing the brand or selling out to another or even consolidating manufacturing in one of their other plants around the world. They have almost 200 other plants making lots of other stuff like jets, Bell helicopters, missle launch vehicles, EZ Go golf carts, Military hovercrafts and supply vehicles, Cushman industrial vehicles, etc....

I will guess with my 2 cents manufacturing going to be absorbed somewhere else. They are a $15 billion dollar company that only paid $250 million for Arctic Cat so tonnes of capacity in other places.
 

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It's the lack of snow year after year that has really affected snowmobile sales. I'm a little surprised though that they are ceasing ATV production. I thought ATV/UTV sales were decent.
 

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Just like Johnson & Evenrude.
Evinrude exists again as an outboard motor/engine. Johnson existed on the restart until 2020.

Maybe Arctic Cat will show back up.
 

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Yamaha is discontinuing snowmobiles as well.

Sign of the times. Not many people want to spend $30K on a sled that sits around 11-12 months because we don't get as much snow anymore. I can drive my golf cart around more in winter the past few years than I can my sled.
 
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It's the lack of snow year after year that has really affected snowmobile sales.
Heck we haven't got decent snow in New England in about 5 years...

sleds are an expensive hobby.. it's a $1000 weekend when you go up north to ride.
between gas/food/lodging/beer/brandy and whiskey.....

not to mention the sleds/trellers and permits ..... gotta pay to play.


Then all summer they sit and make happy homes for mice and chipmunks.
 
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Off topic, but snowmobiling is good for local economies. I had a friend who was a cross country skier. He skied up to a friends bar on a lake. He said "Fred, why don't you put up some flagging tape so we don't have to go around all those snowmobiles when we come off the lake?

Fred said "Bill, what do you see over there?

Bill said "I see snowmobilers with their families, eating and drinking."

Then Fred said "What do you see over there?"

Bill said "I see cross country skiers sipping tea and eating popcorn."

Fred said "That's right. Those @!#$%^s have been sipping that same cup of tea and eating my free popcorn for the past 2 hours. The snowmobilers always spend $$$. They can park anywhere they want to."

Bill said "You're right"
 
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My wife and I, only 2 weeks ago, were discussing getting sleds.

FFWD 2 weeks.............We just got 3 inchs of rain and a forecast of 33+ degrees for the next 3 days.

Last year was the one of the worst I can remember in terms of cold/snow in a long time. We only got out on the ice a few times......(twice?)

It would be very difficult for me to cough up 30-40K for 2 sleds at this point.


Hell, instead of pissing that dough away on sleds, I would put that money towards an M62 TLB...and get WAY MORE use out of it.


Just sayin.....:)
 
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They're only an hour's drive from my place. Very sad for the twon and all of northwestern Mn that they drew workers from. It sounds like they will fulfill their current contract orders and try support the existing sleds with parts for as long as possible. Arctice Cat was a big economic employer for northwest MN.

Not hard to see the writing on the wall, though. Fewer and fewer snowmobiles being bought and ridden around here every year. The last few years you were lucky to see a set of tracks after a fresh snowfall. I don't think it helped any that the sleds became so big, fast and expensive that they virtually priced themselves out of the majority of the people here that used to have one, two, three or more per family.
The problem around SouthWest Pennsylvania has been the lack of snow over the last decade. My local Arctic Cat dealer quit selling them 5 years ago for that reason. Of course I bought their top of the line sled 7 years ago and have barely had the opportunity to use it. Maybe soon.
 
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My wife and I, only 2 weeks ago, were discussing getting sleds.

FFWD 2 weeks.............We just got 3 inchs of rain and a forecast of 33+ degrees for the next 3 days.

Last year was the one of the worst I can remember in terms of cold/snow in a long time. We only got out on the ice a few times......(twice?)

It would be very difficult for me to cough up 30-40K for 2 sleds at this point.


Hell, instead of pissing that dough away on sleds, I would put that money towards an M62 TLB...and get WAY MORE use out of it.


Just sayin.....:)
lots of barely used sleds available at extremely reasonable prices.
 

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I don't remember the year the ThunderCat
showed up. But I remember seeing them on the trails . A 3 cyl bullet to say the least at that time.
My last new sled was a 1990 polaris indy 500 SKS. My first sled when I was 15 was a 1971 skiDoo Olympic. The carb sticking straight out towards your body. You generally always was covered with fuel...it was used when I bought it.
Riding trails in northern maine that are straight for miles and miles the polaris would go right up to 90 mph....then slowly get up to 95.
Lots of great memories being single and just going and doing.
 

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I was reading an article that Textron had bought arctic cat a couple yrs ago.
But as of December 2024 had holted the snowmobile production. Sighting low sales.
1960-2024.
A powerhouse in their hayday.
Its sad to see them go.
Just like Johnson & Evenrude.
Used to work for a company Textron bought...at the time the company was decades old and helped fight WW2. It was a perfectly good and successful company. But didn't last long after they took over, made a bunch of bad decisions and then sold it off.
 

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Sled sales are and have been down for years. As a powersports dealer I see a lot of the things that the manufacturers put out, sales numbers, etc--and sled numbers ARE down. Way down, across the board. We think that the state of the economy has a lot to do with it, along with the fact that the sleds don't sell at all once you get south of about Nebraska. As the planet slowly warms there is less use for them. Sales were UP in 14-15, have been down in the last few years. Cost has some bearing as well. Everything has gone up and hasn't come down; in fact stuff went up again starting today 1 jan 2025. Lots more reasons as well and it's not just arctic cat.

Arctic cat's SxS market is slow (almost dead) in this area, and unless they decide to make changes to "fix" that, they're not going to go anywhere. I actually had an interview with another dealer the other day who sells arctic crap SxS's. Offer was good but there is that "stability" question mark. Arctic cat sent out a letter a while back to the dealers that suggested some incertainties. That dealer's bread and butter is AC Side by sides and ATV's, and suzuki. Suzuki isn't really doing anything either. So I think I'm gonna stay where I'm at for the time being and watch that dealer go slowly downhill, and who knows, we may end up with their stuff too....my boss is a go-getter for sure and he likes to grow. We (dealer I work at) desire to become the biggest, best, ORV dealership in the state. It may take a while but that's the goal and that's why I came on board-to help the service guys learn how things need to be done.

Yamaha rep told us a few years ago that they were going to get rid of snow equipment. So we knew that was coming. It was explained to me that the resources that went to snow were going to be redirected to the ORV and to an extent the marine markets. I'd like to see that happen. Yamaha builds great equipment across the board, although sometimes they fall short of some of the rest of the competition in some ways, but if they can redirect those snow resources to ORV's, I think they can do something with that. I just wish Kubota would do a better job with their gas SxS offerings. The 520 is a joke which does not even begin to compare to the Mule SX (which is it's direct competitor) and the 850 sidekick has so many issues plaguing it from many different angles that it's just not competitive with anything.

Similarly to the snow market, the motorcycle market. In this region motorcycle sales are down ~96% over the last 10 years. That's significant if you couldn't already tell. When I started in the business in 1992 the dealer I worked for typically sold 125-150 motorcycles a year and out of those, probably 85% were street bikes and 15% off-road. In 2020, the last year I did motorcycles, they sold 2 from Jan through October. Both street bikes. Dealer agreement is that if you want to carry ORV's (SxS's) you also have to carry motorcycles. The dealer I used to work for is getting out of the Yamaha business and we (where I am now) are working to acquire their yamaha dealer. The biggest challenge so far is that they (yamaha) want us to carry motorcycles and we are NOT set up for it. I've got experience with them (obviously) but motorcycle customers are COMPLETELY different than SxS customers are so that in itself is gonna be a big challenge for the guys and gals I work with.
 
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lots of barely used sleds available at extremely reasonable prices.
Yes sir, I agree. There is a reason there are so many "barely used sleds" though. There has been a serious lack of snow around these parts in the last few years, and the places that do get it, are jammed packed (Butt to Nut) with sleds......

Jammed packed trails that get the hell beat out of them in the first 20 hours, is not my idea of a good time.......


For me personally though, I have never actually "wanted" a sled. I know....I know.....a guy like me that loves machines in general has never wanted a sled?.........it's crazy, and difficult to explain.

I have had street bikes, dirt bikes, atv's, trucks, tractors, boats and so on, but for some crazy reason, that I still can't explain, I have never actually "wanted' a sled.

Oh sure, I have mentioned it in passing once in a while, but the 'sled bug' has never bitten me.....yet.:unsure: