Battery

[MINICUP28]

I use the Group 51R in my B7610.

Robot or human?

 

[jyoutz]

When I needed a tractor battery, we matched up a Honda battery with the original tractor battery case size. And it had more CCA than the original. Autozone.

 

[fried1765]

AS you are looking at your battery ........ check the wiring TOO the battery and from the battery - grounds especially .....

The voltage may appear fine - BUT the amps do the dirty work. In other words - a battery new or old cannot deliver the needed "juice" if the wiring is corroded.

Your battery may indeed be on the latter end of it's life but just for S and G's check all the cabling.

Also - your battery "box" might be able to handle a little bigger battery in physical size - I would measure the container area and then go out and do a little measuring yourself...... getting the larges CCA you can afford in the process.

hell - young people today cannot tell time on an analog clock - much less ready an imperial tape measure.........

I teach "reading" the ruler every @#$@#$@# year - and each year the kids know less and less. They would not know 1/16" of an inch if I hit them with a stick that had the marking on it!!!!!!

If you have a Walmart nearby, go there with your battery measurements.
Their batteries are on racks that you can access yourself.
Bring your own measuring tape.
Walmart batteries are made by Johnson Controls, and are a good bang for the buck.

 

[Jared 756]

I just looked it up on KPAD and it was very easy to find the part number for it and it also has the group in the remarks section. (group 51)

 

[GeoHorn]

Robot or human?

 

[TheOldHokie]

I just looked it up on KPAD and it was very easy to find the part number for it and it also has the group in the remarks section. (group 51)

Hmmm - when I looked atlKPAD all that was in the remarks section of the page I was looking at was the JIS designation. But 51R appears to be the BCI equivalent. Same as used in my G2160 lawn tractor. The last one I bought was a Duracell currently $110 at Sam's Club

Dan

 

[ItBmine]

Wife just called me from town (I hate going to town so sent her, LOL)
They had a match, so got one.

Thanks again everyone for all the info.

 

[retired farmer]

Robot or human?

A lot of info from that guy if you can listen as fast as he talks.......LOL

 

[ItBmine]

Well, I think I got lucky? When I first saw what the wife brought me home from Parts Source I thought it was some crap no-name brand. But turns out it is made by Johnson Controls whom everyone seems to rave about?

I would have liked to get an AGM, but next time I guess......now that I know what size I am looking for, LOL

Says it has more cranking amps than the original but it has less reserve capacity.

 

[fried1765]

Well, I think I got lucky? When I first saw what the wife brought me home from Parts Source I thought it was some crap no-name brand. But turns out it is made by Johnson Controls whom everyone seems to rave about?

I would have liked to get an AGM, but next time I guess......now that I know what size I am looking for, LOL

Says it has more cranking amps than the original but it has less reserve capacity.

The three year free replacement is about as good as it gets these days!
You should be OK for a while at least.

 

[RCW]

Looks like it’ll be just fine.

As far as AGM, I asked that question here early this year. Wasn’t really after one, but wanted to ask the question. Don’t know that much about them.

Don’t recall all the the conversation, but I was determined to stick with a good lead acid battery. Got almost 9 years out of theOE battery….

 

[lugbolt]

I used many Deka 551RMF on those tractors. They are the exact battery that Kubota used from the factory. They are great quality. 7-9 years average life out of them from what I have seen.

The earlier b series had some issues with the wiring, easy to find with a voltage drop test.

 

[ItBmine]

I was just interested in an AGM because I read they withstand vibration and rough service better than a normal lead acid battery.

What is the difference between an AGM battery and a standard battery?


Instead of the free-flowing liquid inside of a regular car battery, the AGM carries its charge in soaked sponges coating the lead plates. The glass mats' complete coverage makes it easier to summon more power from an AGM battery — and make it easier to recharge.

But like you say RCW.....I got 8 years on my original battery too so hopefully this one does the same.

 

[ItBmine]

I used many Deka 551RMF on those tractors. They are the exact battery that Kubota used from the factory. They are great quality. 7-9 years average life out of them from what I have seen.

The earlier b series had some issues with the wiring, easy to find with a voltage drop test.

I couldn't find anything on the original battery. Other than it said "Made in Korea"

I got lucky. ZERO problems with my B2620. it's a 2013 and has over 800 hours. Mine doesn't drain the battery. It was still showing 12.7 volts after sitting for a week. Just had no cranking power left.
I did that desulfate restore cycle yesterday and this morning the battery was wet around the positive post.
It was still starting the tractor, but I didn't want to wait until it didn't start to change it.

 

[Pau7220]

What is the difference between an AGM battery and a standard battery?

AGM batteries can be damaged by high charging voltages. Most charging systems put out 14.2-14.8V during normal operation. Your conventional battery charger may be capable of putting out as much as 18 volts, which may be fine for a conventional low-maintenance lead-acid battery. These numbers destroy AGMs.


Today's cars made for AGMs actually have the PCM turn down the voltage regulator in a low load cruise situation to extend battery life. GMs with AGMs cruise the highway running at 12.5V with no lights or wipers on.


Moral OTS is you can actually shorten the life of an AGM if your charging system isn't designed for it.

 

[RCW]

ItBmine - if the link works, this is when I asked about AGM.

AGM Battery? Is it worth it?

Heading into 9 years with the BX2360. Original battery, and looking to replace it before snow flies. it’s kept on a battery maintainer most of the time No issues, but it’s my snowblower machine. Don’t want a surprise in January with 24” on the ground. It’s a simple 26R battery. Is something...

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[ItBmine]

RCW....looks like a mixed bag or results, LOL I do see there are things I didn't know about AGM's. But they do have good points too. But I guess the good old cheap lead acid will do the job.

One thing about the internet, you have to take all the info you get, then make you own decision. The one VW I have left, a 2010 2.0 lite turbo was supposed to grenade before the warranty even ran out due to a bad cam chain tensioner they ALL had according to the internet.
I was so worried about it I even went to two dealers to enquire about just tearing it down and replacing it before it fails. Of the two only one of the dealers said they have only seen one fail in all the time they have sold them and don't worry about it. Well, it's got 200,000 miles on it now and still going trouble free.

 

[SDT]

I used many Deka 551RMF on those tractors. They are the exact battery that Kubota used from the factory. They are great quality. 7-9 years average life out of them from what I have seen.

The earlier b series had some issues with the wiring, easy to find with a voltage drop test.

The 651RMF is externally identical but with higher CCA and reserve capacity. Not common (need to order it) and costs a bit more.

SDT

 

[fried1765]

Looks like it’ll be just fine.

As far as AGM, I asked that question here early this year. Wasn’t really after one, but wanted to ask the question. Don’t know that much about them.

Don’t recall all the the conversation, but I was determined to stick with a good lead acid battery. Got almost 9 years out of theOE battery….

Batteries sometimes seem to be a crap shoot.
The heaviest lead acid battery will usually be the most cost effective.
In my opinion, the fancy batteries (Optima etc.) are usually not worth their premium price.

 

[ItBmine]

Well, makes me feel better anyway that I didn't go the extra mile to spend more and find an AGM that fit.