Installing Diesel Exhaust Fluid System

jyoutz

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I just wonder if all the diesel fumes from Asia ever make their way through the jet stream to AK, or if they simply hover only over Asia.
I don’t know, but I do remember the 1970s with brown air and acid rain where you live. I do remember a few rivers catching fire. I do remember not wanting to go to a large metropolitan area because the air made my eyes sting and caused choking coughs. Now none of that is the case anymore. So cleaner vehicles and fuel did make a big difference in the U.S. yet China still has filthy air.
 
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in 2011 I had to go to a "class" I guess you could say, it was more of a pretty technical set of classes that I called "school" (aka training for work). This dealt with lawn equipment and side-by-side UTV's specifically. One of the mowers they built used a little perkins (aka "cat") 3 or 4 cylinder (depending on the HP, one was 28hp the other 30hp). As we all know, emissions laws changed and by 2013/14 "most" engines over 25hp had a DPF. There are different ways to accomplish the same thing but the DPF and EFI was and still is the least expensive way to do it. Note that the EPA (and probably carb) doesn't necessarily mandate specifically the DPF or SCR system, rather it sets a set of rules and laws that dictate how much and what kinds of gases can be emitted from the exhaust system. How the manufacturers chose to meet that set of laws and rules is up to the manufacturer, EPA really doesn't care too much about how, just that it does.

Anyway, on the mowers, the cost of the mower build was to increase about $7500. Of that, $1800 was retrofitting the engine with the correct DPF and DOC which would meet the epa's mandates, and that $1800 would not include retrofitting a reformer system which was about 2 grand total. The rest of it would have been the actual testing and certification process as we were told.

By adding $7500 to that mower, it would have put it WELL beyond what the competitor's comparable mower would sell for, so rather than retrofit, they just quit making them altogether.

Sounds crazy that the state of cali would mandate retrofitting, but I wouldn't put it past them. They are stupid, and they do not care about people. That's why the entire state is so expensive to live in, and from what I am told by the neighbor who moved from there, why many folks are moving out.
 

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I just wonder if all the diesel fumes from Asia ever make their way through the jet stream to AK, or if they simply hover only over Asia.
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re: Do you know how I would go about reprogramming the ECU?

Sure , I've reprogrammed microcontrollers every day since about 1986ish.

1st. determine the make/model of the micro
2nd.read the machine code out of it
3rd, edit as required
4th.'burn' the new program into the micro
5th. test and repeat 2-3-4 until you're happy..
It is that easy...

Now the 'challenge' is that 99.44% of those that want to do this haven't got a clue as to what 'machine code' is, have testing facilities for the sensors, or enough chemical/electronics educations to actually make the code changes.

#1 is kinda easy,especially if the chip's ID is on it.
#2 is tricky. Most MFRS do not allow chips to be read(though there are 'tricks of the trade'.
#3 the complicated part,1/2 science,1/2 art/ 1/2 luck getting the 'numbers ' right
#4 the piece of cake...takes less than a minute
#5 boring and frustrating,'revising' and 'tweaking' code can be 50-60-100 revisions

Obviously there are 'cheats', like taking the code from a similar engine already using DEF/DPF. Reverse engineer to get the algorithms( 'math' ) and adjust as required. Again, once you have the machine code, it's fairly straightforward.
Biggest 'cheat' is to buy a 'tuner'. An external micro that talks to the original ECU and changes 'parameters' or 'settings'.
Do you know if Kubota uses C as the language for programming the ECU?
 

Fishhook

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I don’t know, but I do remember the 1970s with brown air and acid rain where you live. I do remember a few rivers catching fire. I do remember not wanting to go to a large metropolitan area because the air made my eyes sting and caused choking coughs. Now none of that is the case anymore. So cleaner vehicles and fuel did make a big difference in the U.S. yet China still has filthy air.
Did you live in China? I only visited Beijing once - the weather was fantastic when I was there, but that was back in May 2012.
 

jyoutz

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Did you live in China? I only visited Beijing once - the weather was fantastic when I was there, but that was back in May 2012.
No. I do recall seeing the filthy looking brown air during the Bejing olympics.