Building a machinery shed

[Bee-Positive]

I have 40 hives. I also lead the Branson Mo. bee club. I started beekeeping back in the 70s instead of drugs.

Awesome, 40 hives is a lot of work not to mention leading a club. We're spinning off the subject but hey, at least you can move hives with the tractor if you strap them properly. Maybe store empty hive boxes and what not in your new shed. Mice always need a new home.

 

[hoot owl]

I have another building for the bee equipment. We don't have mice or snacks. Our 4 cats get fed once a week unless the weather is real bad. I do use the tractor to mow the bee locations around the county.
I should have around 80 hives by fall then I sell some in the spring.

 

[Bee-Positive]

I have another building for the bee equipment. We don't have mice or snacks. Our 4 cats get fed once a week unless the weather is real bad. I do use the tractor to mow the bee locations around the county.
I should have around 80 hives by fall then I sell some in the spring.

If I was closer to Forsyth I'd drop in.

 

[Russell King]

@hoot owl thank you for the answers on the front

I don’t think the detractors understand the post and beam construction techniques that you have used.

 

[BBFarmer]

I have 40 hives. I also lead the Branson Mo. bee club. I started beekeeping back in the 70s instead of drugs.

That's alot of bees right there.

My boss's dad has I think 3 or 4 hives.

Always loved honey bees.

I've been wanting to look into this for our blueberry farm. I get a visit annually from someones bees near by. A good load of bumble bees as well.

It can actually get pretty intense walking through the lanes when they're out doing their thing. They come in large numbers. I reckon we're kinda lucky?

I dont know, always thought it'd be cool to have a couple of hives to play with but never knew the basic ins and outs of them.

I'd be out there trying to feed and water them like chickens or something.

Totally love your shed btw. As a new farm owner with absolutely zero covered places to store or repair equipment, I envy your whole set up.

 

[fried1765]

Russell King
Thank You for an honest question.
I plan on leaving the front open. If I ever do close any of it in it would only be the bay where the tractor is. Then I would have to do some framing for a garage door.
It faces south so it warms up fast now that the walls are up.



As far as the snow sliding off the roof, most of it slid off the next day. I have lived in Pa. where we had 3' of snow, so I do understand snow load. Around this part of the USA the main concern is tornados and high winds. 90% of the joist have hurricane straps on them. We had 2 days with 60+ mph winds out of the South all day and nothing moved. I was in the shed cleaning up cutoff lumber from the plywood wall build at the time, but when I went out to walk to the house I could barely stand because the wind was that strong.
In this area most of the custom built poll shed's are built 4' center with 2x4 joist and very few hurricane straps other than sill plate and center point.

I'm not building in your area so it is not built to your building coeds.
For those of you complaining about how I built MY BUILDING by my self I might add, lets see your build by your self.

Quite obviously, a structural/civil engineer you ain't!

 

[Russell King]

Quite obviously, a structural/civil engineer you ain't!

No You make the targets and I will design the equipment that moves around to blow up your target.

I believe that my experience (as a mechanical engineer) with structures is as good or better that your experience in civil engineering.

So you can take your superiority complex and put it into a dark recess!

 

[fried1765]

No You make the targets and I will design the equipment that moves around to blow up your target.

I believe that my experience (as a mechanical engineer) with structures is as good or better that your experience in civil engineering.

So you can take your superiority complex and put it into a dark recess!

You are certainly entitled to believe whatever you choose about structural integrity, but your personal beliefs may not necessarily coincide with generally accepted building practices.

Your cleverly designed insult ..... has been received!

 

[Russell King]

You are certainly entitled to believe whatever you choose to believe, about structural integrity, but that does not necessarily coincide with fact.
Thanks much for the insult too!

Like you don’t make insults?

Just because you followed a specific code does not mean anything less is going to fail. In fact I know that many structures that are “to code” fail when they are not strong enough to sustain the unexpected load. The structure you are questioning is built to “the code” as required in that person’s area (which may be “do what you have the freedom to do“). It is modeled after other successful similar buildings that the builder mimicked (just like engineers do) and has survived the tests that nature has provided so far.

Just ignore the thread if the freedom to build a building that meets your requirements is somehow bothersome to you, but stop with the negative comments about the structure and the person doing it.

 

[fried1765]

Like you don’t make insults?

Just because you followed a specific code does not mean anything less is going to fail. In fact I know that many structures that are “to code” fail when they are not strong enough to sustain the unexpected load. The structure you are questioning is built to “the code” as required in that person’s area (which may be “do what you have the freedom to do“). It is modeled after other successful similar buildings that the builder mimicked (just like engineers do) and has survived the tests that nature has provided so far.

Just ignore the thread if the freedom to build a building that meets your requirements is somehow bothersome to you, but stop with the negative comments about the structure and the person doing it.

Got it!
Per your nasty admonishment, I will avoid commenting on all OTT posted, potentially dangerous/hazardous situations.
Let the buyer/builder beware !

 

[BAP]

Quite obviously, a structural/civil engineer you ain't!

What rock did you just crawl out from under? This thread has been going on for 6 months and you just now come on to bash the OP? It’s already been hashed out about the building design. It’s his building, not yours, not the Canadian expert nor anyone else’s. He has done a great write up on his journey to build this storage building.

 

[fried1765]

What rock did you just crawl out from under? This thread has been going on for 6 months and you just now come on to bash the OP? It’s already been hashed out about the building design. It’s his building, not yours, not the Canadian expert nor anyone else’s. He has done a great write up on his journey to build this storage building.

You are one of 3 on my "ignore" list.
Now, I remember just why!
Insults !!!!

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Enough Bashing of anyone, by anyone, move on!

 

[Russell King]

Enough Bashing of anyone, by anyone, move on!

I did that already!

 

[Hugo Habicht]

I've been wanting to look into this for our blueberry farm.

We had a lecturer from a German university doing a presention to the local beekeepers association. He had investigated yield increase on fruit plants through honey bees. As far as I remember honey bees were particularly useful for blueberries with the yield increasing by 70%.

Contact a local beekeepers association or a local beekeeper for help. It is not very difficult (ok, recognising deseases as a beginner can be a problem) but providing water (if required) and feeding them in autumn (if you take their honey) is fairly easy. I found it very rewarding. But as I said, getting help initially from an experienced person I would consider important.

 

[BBFarmer]

We had a lecturer from a German university doing a presention to the local beekeepers association. He had investigated yield increase on fruit plants through honey bees. As far as I remember honey bees were particularly useful for blueberries with the yield increasing by 70%.

Contact a local beekeepers association or a local beekeeper for help. It is not very difficult (ok, recognising deseases as a beginner can be a problem) but providing water (if required) and feeding them in autumn (if you take their honey) is fairly easy. I found it very rewarding. But as I said, getting help initially from an experienced person I would consider important.

Thank you sir for that advice.

They do seem to really enjoy them. We see large numbers each year.

It will even get bad enough they'll get into our chicken feed. Cracked corn and what not.

They're often so focused on that chicken feed that I've actually touched a couple at times.

 

[hoot owl]

BBFarmer
In some areas of the country they pay bee keepers to bring bees in to pollenate blue berries.
I don't do any of that I am in it to have honey to sell.
I also mentor 20+ people that are first year to 5 years in to beekeeping.

 

[fried1765]

BBFarmer
In some areas of the country they pay bee keepers to bring bees in to pollenate blue berries.
I don't do any of that I am in it to have honey to sell.
I also mentor 20+ people that are first year to 5 years in to beekeeping.

Cranberries too!

 

[BBFarmer]

BBFarmer
In some areas of the country they pay bee keepers to bring bees in to pollenate blue berries.
I don't do any of that I am in it to have honey to sell.
I also mentor 20+ people that are first year to 5 years in to beekeeping.

That's very interesting.

Heard of blueberry farms up north doing similar.

I remember a fella in Michigan I think, basically renting several hives. He got the pollination, bee owner got the honey. Everyone was happy.

 

[fried1765]

That's very interesting.

Heard of blueberry farms up north doing similar.

I remember a fella in Michigan I think, basically renting several hives. He got the pollination, bee owner got the honey. Everyone was happy.

Thousands of bee colonies are transported from the Southern US, annually to California, to pollinate the CA grown crops