L2501 Turbo: A Journey Defined - The tractor, The comparison, The modification, The results...

Rodd

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I recommend adding a vacuum “T” fitting between the Turbo compressor housing and boost actuator.

Edit: We do include a vacuum T fitting (hose and hardware) if the optional gauge kit is selected. However, we are still lacking installation instructions for this option. :(
I need to get this done :D

Mike
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I recommend adding a vacuum “T” fitting between the Turbo compressor housing and boost actuator.

Edit: We do include a vacuum T fitting (hose and hardware) if the optional gauge kit is selected. However, we are still lacking installation instructions for this option. :(
I need to get this done :D

Mike
Thank you for the info! What’s the hose size, or what size T-fitting do I need?
 
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Thank you for the info! What’s the hose size, or what size T-fitting do I need?
You’re welcome!

3/16” for fitting and hose.

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You’re very welcome!

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We’re working on several Turbo Kits at the moment, with many, many more on Back-Order. We’re doing our best to get these built as quickly as possible. The OEM Kubota/Mitsubishi MHI Turbochargers are also on Back-Order complicating things further. We have lots of those on Order too.

What state is your Order shipping to?

Mike
 
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I’m in Montana. That’s great you guys are busy with lots of orders! Not trying to rush things, I’m just getting excited about getting it! Starting to feel like a kid waiting for Santa. 😀

Thanks for the reply!
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You’re in the production queue.

And…
I fully understand. Trust me, it’ll be worth the wait and you’ll be very pleased with Santa’s contribution this year! :)

Mike
 
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That sounds real good! I’m really looking forward to it. The performance results you’re showing, sound just like what our tractor needs. It definitely struggles with a lack of power at times; like pushing heavy snow, climbing a hill, or roading in high gear. We’re at 4,500 ft. elevation here, so this should help with the smoke too.

Excited for Santa!
 
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That sounds real good! I’m really looking forward to it. The performance results you’re showing, sound just like what our tractor needs. It definitely struggles with a lack of power at times; like pushing heavy snow, climbing a hill, or roading in high gear. We’re at 4,500 ft. elevation here, so this should help with the smoke too.

Excited for Santa!
The Turbo Kit will improve performance significantly, especially at your elevation (and higher)…..even with the factory fuel settings! Less smoke, lower EGT’s and your L2501 will perform like you are operating at sea level but with a touch more power. With fuel adjustments, it’ll behave like an L3901 at sea level. And when it comes to PTO power, the Turbo Kit provides all the power you’ll need. It’s quite an improvement.

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Thank you, Mike for the reassurance that I’ve made a good decision to improve performance, on our L2501 with the S2T Turbo Kit.

Rodd
 
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Turbos! Turbos! Turbos!
5 unpacked, 7 to go!

I don’t know if there is anyone on the forum that is patiently waiting for a Turbo Kit but, shockingly, Turbochargers have been on back-order for the last few months. We had already purchased all available inventory from both our suppliers so this recent order of 12 Turbochargers will certainly help!

We’ve looking forward to getting more Kits shipped out this month.

Mike
 
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Turbos! Turbos! Turbos!
5 unpacked, 7 to go!

I don’t know if there is anyone on the forum that is patiently waiting for a Turbo Kit but, shockingly, Turbochargers have been on back-order for the last few months. We had already purchased all available inventory from both our suppliers so this recent order of 12 Turbochargers will certainly help!

We’ve looking forward to getting more Kits shipped out this month.

Mike
Yes, I’ve been patiently waiting, Rodd in Montana. This is great news! Really looking forward to it. Thanks so much for the update!
 
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Yes, I’ve been patiently waiting, Rodd in Montana. This is great news! Really looking forward to it. Thanks so much for the update!
You’re very very welcome!

I just checked, your Turbo Kit will ship next week, probably Thursday/Friday. We’ll send you confirmation and tracking information via email.

…I am disappointed we weren’t able to get your Turbo Kit shipped in time for Christmas.

Can’t wait to get your feedback!

Mike
 
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You’re very very welcome!

I just checked, your Turbo Kit will ship next week, probably Thursday/Friday. We’ll send you confirmation and tracking information via email.

…I am disappointed we weren’t able to get your Turbo Kit shipped in time for Christmas.

Can’t wait to get your feedback!

Mike
Excellent, glad to hear this, Mike! No we didn’t get it in time for Christmas, but that’s okay, things don’t always go as planned. It’s a new year now and it should be a good one!
 
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This is exciting news. Now if our typical Washington weather would clear up a bit...

I'm really looking forward to this upgrade.

L2501 Beast Mode! 🌪♨🚜👍
 
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This is exciting news. Now if our typical Washington weather would clear up a bit...

I'm really looking forward to this upgrade.

L2501 Beast Mode! 🌪♨🚜👍
Amen to that! I know the cold, wet weather is a motivation killer!

It’s definitely worth the effort! The Turbo Kit will certainly activate L2501 Beast Mode!

Mike
 
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You’re very very welcome!

I just checked, your Turbo Kit will ship next week, probably Thursday/Friday. We’ll send you confirmation and tracking information via email.

…I am disappointed we weren’t able to get your Turbo Kit shipped in time for Christmas.

Can’t wait to get your feedback!

Mike
You’re very very welcome!

I just checked, your Turbo Kit will ship next week, probably Thursday/Friday. We’ll send you confirmation and tracking information via email.

…I am disappointed we weren’t able to get your Turbo Kit shipped in time for Christmas.

Can’t wait to get your feedback!

Mike
Wow, what a difference! It’s like having a different tractor! This turbo kit is exactly what this tractor needed. It sure perked it up, giving the tractor the power I always thought it was lacking and far less smoke, which I was really hoping for. I am really pleased, couldn’t be happier with how it runs. When I work it; rather than Bogging down and smoking the whole time, the turbo boost kicks in and it gains power without the smoke. Absolutely tickled and would highly recommend this turbo kit to anyone who is looking for better performance from their tractor.

And I have to say the fabrication and craftsmanship on this turbo kit is very impressive! I’m blown away every time I look at it, it’s like a work of art! And everything fit perfectly and went together almost flawlessly. I really couldn’t be happier with the install and how our tractor is running, it amazing!

Thank you, Mike and to all who were involved in building this performance turbo kit. I love it!
Rodd
 
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The L2501 Turbo is ready for testing and tuning!

To accomplish this task, I’ll be using a Pyrometer to analyze the exhaust gas temperatures. Why do we care about EGT’s again? What do they tell us? We’re using a pyrometer to test and tune the engine because the EGT is an indication of how hot the combustion process is in the cylinders and the amount of “after burning” that is occurring in the exhaust manifold. The pyrometer measures these conditions in real time. The EGT is also directly related to the air/fuel ratio and the general consensus is the leaner the air/fuel ratio is, the lower the EGT. And the richer the air/fuel ratio is, the higher the EGT will be. Therefore, in most cases, excessively high EGT’s means over fueling. Meanwhile keeping the EGT’s a bit leaner, will lower EGT’s and can actually improve fuel economy. Something to keep in mind. Most diesel experts recommend a maximum of 1,200-1,300 degrees of EGT and emphasize that you do not want to maintain temperatures above 1,300 degrees for any length of time. In theory, by using a Turbo to increase air flow in a diesel engine, fuel can be added in a calibrated manner to increase power while maintaining an acceptable air/fuel ratio that does not create excessive EGT’s. That’s the objective.

It wouldn’t be fair if I didn’t include a baseline EGT test. So, without further delay here are the EGT readings I recorded when 100% stock.

L2501 HST 4WD (LA525 Loader w/ 66” QA Bucket, Liquid Tire Ballast) - ALL STOCK, NO MODIFICATIONS (40* ambient temperature).

Recorded EGT’s:
Idle = 200-300*
Traveling on flat ground (M) = 300-500*
Loader and grading work (M) = 500-700*
Traveling up hill carrying medium load (22* Slope, 40% grade) (M) = 600-738*
Peak EGT = 738*

Now, let’s compare the Turbo EGT’s but, with the factory fuel setting. NO ADDITIONAL FUEL HAS BEEN ADDED. We just installed the Turbocharger system and ran the tractor.

L2501 HST 4WD (LA525 Loader w/ 66” QA Bucket, Liquid Tire Ballast) - TURBO SYSTEM - 4PSI - Factory Fuel Setting (83* ambient temperature).

Recorded EGT’s:
Idle = 250-275*
Traveling on flat ground (M) = 275-500*
Loader and grading work (M) = 500-625*
Traveling up hill carrying medium load (22* Slope, 40% grade) (M) = 575-700*
Peak EGT = 700*

As you can see, nothing really has changed. The EGT’s heat up a bit quicker but, overall, the temperatures are running around 0-75 degrees cooler with the Turbo installed combined the factory fuel setting. I’m assuming this is because there is more air getting forced into the engine with the same fuel volume. Right now, with the Turbo and factory fueling, there is zero smoke coming from the engine, regardless of conditions. The engine is using all the fuel it can get.

We’re just getting warmed up!
Let’s add some fuel!

I started with a 1/2 Turn, counter clockwise to increase fuel volume. This setting resulted with a peak of 6 PSI and 3 PSI of sustained boost pressure. No smoke was observed during testing and surprisingly, EGT’s dropped under load going up the hill in (M) gear. Strangely, maximum EGT observed was 631 degrees. Weird.

More puzzling, I wasn’t happy seeing only 3 PSI sustained and I began questioning why I wasn’t maintaining more boost pressure. Was it fuel? Or, was it something related to the Turbo system? At this moment I started questioning the capacity of the OEM intake assembly and air filter. Could it flow enough air for the Turbocharger? I quickly removed the OEM intake assembly and ran the Turbo open-air (no filter) to see if the factory air intake assembly was causing a restriction.

The tractor did in fact pick up an additional 1 PSI of boost both peak and sustained with the same fuel setting, but only 1 PSI. 1 PSI isn’t monumental. This proved a few things; one, using the OEM air cleaner assembly and filter is perfectly acceptable. Two; with such a small gain in boost pressure, it isn’t worth using an aftermarket performance air filter, especially considering the air filtration issues. And three; I need more fuel. I reinstalled the OEM air cleaner assembly and prepared for additional testing.

I gradually increased the fuel volume to 1 full turn, counter clockwise. This setting resulted with 7 PSI peak and 4 PSI sustained boost pressure. No smoke was observed during testing. That’s not enough sustained PSI. I still wasn’t pleased with the results.

L2501 HST 4WD (LA525 Loader w/ 66” QA Bucket, Liquid Tire Ballast) - TURBO SYSTEM - 7 PSI - Fuel setting, 1 Full Turn (75* ambient temperature).

Recorded EGT’s:
Idle = 275-300*
Traveling on flat ground (M) = 300-500*
Loader and grading work (M) = 500-630*
Traveling up hill carrying medium load (22* Slope, 40% grade) (M) = 500-640*
Peak EGT = 640*

I then increased the fuel volume to 1 1/2 turn, counter clockwise. This setting resulted with the same 7 PSI peak but, 5 PSI sustained. Now we’re getting somewhere! There was some smoke observed at startup and a puff or two during operation. Not bad. I was happy to be making progress, but, still unhappy with the results.

L2501 HST 4WD (LA525 Loader w/ 66” QA Bucket, Liquid Tire Ballast) - TURBO SYSTEM - 7 PSI - Fuel Setting, 1 1/2 Full Turns (82* ambient temperature).

Recorded EGT’s:
Idle = 250-300*
Traveling on flat ground (M) = 300-500*
Loader and grading work (M) = 500-630*
Traveling up hill carrying medium load (22* Slope, 40% grade) (M) = 500-641*
Peak EGT = 641*

Shockingly, the numbers really aren’t that different. Why? I just can’t place enough load on the tractor to make it work hard enough to sustain boost pressure. Even going up my big hill in (M) gear carrying a load isn’t enough to maintain a load on the tractor. Crazy!

Continued on Post #22!!!

Mike
Iam wondering if you used the third range and loaded the engine down more if your results would change,?
 
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Thank you!
Much appreciated.


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After (new T-clamps);
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Swapping the hose clamps was solely done for aesthetics. Obviously, this small modification wasn’t necessary. The old hose clamps work just as well as the new T-clamps. I just like things to match and look ‘clean’.

Mike
WAY PRETTY,,, I don't care if it works or not,..LOLOL,
 
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