BTDT.I'm fairly sure that @ethanbrush is more concerned about probability than possibility. There are no end of "possibilities" if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
BTDT.I'm fairly sure that @ethanbrush is more concerned about probability than possibility. There are no end of "possibilities" if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
Wise decision.I just talked with them. He said that unit came in around very end of 2023. Said we could order one from the factory, lead time about 2.5 months. I do like to keep my tractor under cover and am not in any hurry, so maybe I will request the fresh one.....![]()
That is over 6 months sitting out in the weather (presumably). If they offer me a discount for the existing iron I may go for it, but for the same price, I think Ill wait. Thanks for that heads up.Wise decision.
Sure its only 7 months, but if its the same price for a factory new one, which one you gunna take?Tractors, balers, semis, cars and trucks and a lot more equipment sits outside for 6 months or more before and AFTER purchase to no ill effect. Don't see an issue what so ever.
The one I can get first. Factory new is factory new, as long as it is not years difference in ages. One already on the lot has more room for negotiation than when ordering. No different than buying a truck the dealership is sitting on versus having them ordering one. They are more motivated moving the one they have on hand. As long as everything is identical, 7 months for a tractor or truck on a lot is nothing.Sure its only 7 months, but if its the same price for a factory new one, which one you gunna take?
You're the one paying for it so you should get what you want. That's really all that matters.Sure its only 7 months, but if its the same price for a factory new one, which one you gunna take?
There is always the possibility that a “factory new” delivered in 2-1/2 to 3 months from now is NOT going to be the same price if there is price increases.Sure its only 7 months, but if its the same price for a factory new one, which one you gunna take?
In my country (NZ) if you pay for something and have a signed agreement, they can't change the price. I see people reporting that it happened to them in the USA. I'm dubious that they actually had a signed purchase agreement with a price and a down payment, as even in the USA I don't see how someone can break a contract (which is what a purchase agreement is). I'm sure you can get some certainty that they won't change the price if you specifically ask whether it's a binding legal agreement.I will revisit the situation with him next week. He did say they were the same price. But I will push him again on this, propose I would be willing to take the existing one but I expect a discount.
Not having the tractor for two and a half months is actually a benefit in my situation.
I will ask him also about price increases, although I am skeptical we would agree on a price and I would pay for it and then they would charge me more.
How is the situation in NZ relevant to what happens in the US? Short answer ... it's not.In my country (NZ) if you pay for something and have a signed agreement, they can't change the price. I see people reporting that it happened to them in the USA. I'm dubious that they actually had a signed purchase agreement with a price and a down payment, as even in the USA I don't see how someone can break a contract (which is what a purchase agreement is). I'm sure you can get some certainty that they won't change the price if you specifically ask whether it's a binding legal agreement.
So, if you pay for it in full then you get the promised price? As I said, in my opinion there's always a way to get a binding agreement if you want to.How is the situation in NZ relevant to what happens in the US? Short answer ... it's not.
If you finance a tractor through Kubota, you don't sign the paperwork and start the loan until you take possession of the tractor. All you do is put down a deposit, and all you can guarantee is that you'll get your deposit back if you don't end up buying the tractor. It is absolutely within Kubota's rights to change the price as you're waiting on the toy du jour to show up, assuming that you haven't paid for it in full.
During the supply chain shortage, many dealers weren't allowing anyone to pay in full due to extended delivery times. The dealership would eat the cost if there was difference in price between the time the order was placed and delivery.
Many people can't afford to hand over $50k in cash for a new tractor, or if they have the money don't want to for any number of reasons, so there isn't always a way. Sometimes the only reasonable option is to solve the problem in front of you regardless of what others think. For the vast majority, a tractor is a luxury and not a necessity, and unless you're making money from that tractor it will always be that way.So, if you pay for it in full then you get the promised price? As I said, in my opinion there's always a way to get a binding agreement if you want to.