Upgrading to B model*****UPDATE*******

InTheWoods

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The theory on tractor sizing basing the tractor size on the acreage you own makes perfect sense if you're doing field work...

... but it doesn't make as much sense if it's wooded recreational land.

When the land is wooded, you'll end up, over your lifetime, 'sculpting' the woods based on the footprint and capability of the tractor. I have wooded hilly land and a B7510. The result is land that's become accessible and generally 'fun' to work with this size tractor. The 'fit' of this tractor for me and the way I want my land is about right. When I'm plowing snow or need to lift heavy stuff, I'd like more tractor. When I'm bush-hogging a trail, my little B7100, with its smaller 'footprint' is usually better.

I use my woods recreationally. I don't need or want to build roads - only trails for the tractor, ATV, SxS. If I was building roads suitable for my truck, I'd want a bigger tractor.

I've wanted a grapple to varying degrees over the years. I find that a FEL + forks are pretty amazing in what they do, just slow. A 'right-size' skidding winch would be very useful. I'd not want a tractor with a BH, since most of the time it'd be an encumbrance in the woods.

So, if I was getting analytical, I'd find a tractor size that:
  • Maximizes weight
  • Maximizes FEL lift capacity
  • Maximizes ground clearance
  • Maximizes 'stability' (i.e. wheel width)
  • Maximizes HP
  • Obvious, but hyrdrostat + power steering is required
  • Is orange
While it also:
  • Minimizes CG (i.e. wheel weights)
  • Minimizes length/turning circle
  • Stays in budget
 
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Oliver

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Good post InTheWoods.
For wooded property, larger size and cabs can be disadvantages and lots of power is unnecessary. Compact tractors are ideal (for me). Subcompacts don't provide enough ground clearance and can come up a little short on lift capacity, especially after factoring in the weight of the bucket itself or a grapple.

A grapple is probably my most used attachment. TBH since I bought the grapple 8 years ago I haven't used my forks. I won't drag tree trunks that I may section for firewood so I like being able to grab and carry sections. It makes cleaning up a pile of limbs off the tree a breeze. Great for pulling out rocks too.

I bought my current 2013 tractor 5 years ago, used (149 hours), and it came with a backhoe. The hoe has been very useful 3-4 times but were I buying a new tractor I'd forego it because I don't use it often enough to justify the cost and space it takes.
 
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Bald1

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Good post InTheWoods.
For wooded property, larger size and cabs can be disadvantages and lots of power is unnecessary. Compact tractors are ideal (for me). Subcompacts don't provide enough ground clearance and can come up a little short on lift capacity, especially after factoring in the weight of the bucket itself or a grapple.

A grapple is probably my most used attachment. TBH since I bought the grapple 8 years ago I haven't used my forks. I won't drag tree trunks that I may section for firewood so I like being able to grab and carry sections. It makes cleaning up a pile of limbs off the tree a breeze. Great for pulling out rocks too.

I bought my current 2013 tractor 5 years ago, used (149 hours), and it came with a backhoe. The hoe has been very useful 3-4 times but were I buying a new tractor I'd forego it because I don't use it often enough to justify the cost and space it takes.
I agree on all your points. But I definitely want/need a BH. I’ll have room to store it as I’m putting a carport on side of my new shop just to store implements. Just backup hookup and go.
 

Oliver

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I agree on all your points. But I definitely want/need a BH. I’ll have room to store it as I’m putting a carport on side of my new shop just to store implements. Just backup hookup and go.
Yeah for people who can use a backhoe a good bit, having one could be really handy. I just don't have the need very often.
It sits under one of my carports where the tractor was, along with a trailer. LOL I had to build another building for the tractor, implements, mowers, splitter, and SXS's. I don't want stuff sitting out in the weather.
 
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Bald1

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Yeah for people who can use a backhoe a good bit, having one could be really handy. I just don't have the need very often.
It sits under one of my carports where the tractor was, along with a trailer. LOL I had to build another building for the tractor, implements, mowers, splitter, and SXS's. I don't want stuff sitting out in the weather.
Same, don’t like my stuff out in the weather. And if I’m being honest I don’t like stuff scattered around outside like a junkyard.
 
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Bald1

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Well I bought a B2601 TLB. Came with a 60” mmm. 5’ tiller that was used twice and quick attach forks. Literally everything I wanted I one package. Even the loaded turf tires which I prefer. Left home at 4am yesterday. 19 hrs and 976 mi later I had it home.
 

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trikepilot

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Well I bought a B2601 TLB. Came with a 60” mmm. 5’ tiller that was used twice and quick attach forks. Literally everything I wanted I one package. Even the loaded turf tires which I prefer. Left home at 4am yesterday. 19 hrs and 976 mi later I had it home.
Congrats! You will enjoy it.

If your carport has a hard floor surface, consider building a dolly for the BH when it is off the tractor. It allows you to move the detached BH around during storage as needed and then makes re-connecting it to the tractor infinitely easier. This forum is filled with good ideas on ways to DIY a good working dolly on the cheap. The most expensive part of mine were the swiveling caster wheels.
 
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someguy9000

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Congrats! You will enjoy it.

If your carport has a hard floor surface, consider building a dolly for the BH when it is off the tractor. It allows you to move the detached BH around during storage as needed and then makes re-connecting it to the tractor infinitely easier. This forum is filled with good ideas on ways to DIY a good working dolly on the cheap. The most expensive part of mine were the swiveling caster wheels.
Yep congrats to OP, hope it does everything they want.

The dolly for the BH is literally a must, not a consider (if you are ever going to take it off)
. I'd also suggest looking at BXpanded for the BH attachments. Thumb, quick change, ripper, and 6 inch trench bucket have all served me well.
 
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trikepilot

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Yep congrats to OP, hope it does everything they want.

The dolly for the BH is literally a must, not a consider (if you are ever going to take it off)
. I'd also suggest looking at BXpanded for the BH attachments. Thumb, quick change, ripper, and 6 inch trench bucket have all served me well.
Agree on the BXpanded quick change and ripper. They have made stump removal a breeze. The OPs pics appear to already show a thumb
 
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Bald1

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Yep congrats to OP, hope it does everything they want.

The dolly for the BH is literally a must, not a consider (if you are ever going to take it off)
. I'd also suggest looking at BXpanded for the BH attachments. Thumb, quick change, ripper, and 6 inch trench bucket have all served me well.
it’s got a thumb on it which I forgot to mention. I’ll eventually get a Bxpanded 16 or 20 inch bh bucket. I need to move alot of soft ground expanding a natural “pond area”
 
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Congrats on your total package!!! Your big mistake (it appears) was to pull back in and unload in broad daylight for all the neighbors to see!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Even though they'd eventually notice anyway. Most likely, your neighbors are going to become even more friendly now. Nothing wrong with that. It makes for alot of free meals, baked goods, and even some cold beer now and then!!
 
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Runs With Scissors

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Congrats on the new machine.

Lots of good advice above, so it's hard to add anything, but I will "second" (third?) the suggestion of a BH dolly.

It makes removal/install a snap! (although I rarely take it off ;) )

I will add that I used the Harbor Freight, 6 inch, swivel casters and really like how easy it is to move with it with them on a concrete floor.

Lastly, that BXpanded "quick connect" and "ripper tooth" has come in very handy.....I personally think they are well worth the investment. (y)

Good Luck🍻🍻

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I replaced the "quick connect" pin with a 'nylock' nut and bolt after the 3rd time losing it in the dirt. So although it is not quite as fast to remove/install, it sure beats looking for that pin.....YMMV 🤷‍♂️
 
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