Why are trucks so big?

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Not too shocking. My first pickup was a 1973 D100 with a little 318 V8, regular cab, and 8’ bed. It had the Adventurer package so it came with upgrades such as carpet, AM/FM radio, and air conditioning. Gas tank was behind the seat so the only in cab storage was the glove box and under the seat. I couldn’t afford a toolbox so if I had stuff in the bed that needed to be secured at a stop on a trip, it had to be packed into the cab when parked and moved back to the bed when it was time to leave, or just don’t stop. Looking back on it, not sure how it put up with some of the stuff I did with it. Like flat towing an old flatbed Chevy C60 with a blown engine from Morrisville to Wendell with a chain at 60mph and a brakeman in the C60. For those unfamiliar with the area, the entirety of Raleigh is in between and it’s kind of hard to pull that off stealthily with a straight piped truck, but in the 80’s you could get away with more sketchy stuff than you can now.

Now I have a 4 door Tundra with a 5.7L V8, 6.5’ bed, and a tri-fold tonneau. Yeah, the bed is pretty short, but everyone I know who has a 4 door pickup with an 8’ bed complains about it not fitting in most parking lots to the point it’s necessary to research parking options before going anywhere unfamiliar. It’s bad enough around here it makes it challenging to impossible for a daily driver. That and looking at specs on a pretty wide variety of pickups before buying the Tundra, it was pretty obvious modern pickups’ cargo capacity is generally rather picayune compared to tow capacity. For instance my current truck is rated at 1300lb cargo capacity, which IMO is downright embarrassing for a 5300lb dry weight vehicle. But it’s rated at 9,999lb tow capacity; a bit more respectable. So if I want to haul a refrigerator or a deer carcass or pick up some odd stuff from an estate sale that might not fit in a SUV, a 1300lb capacity truck with a tonneau that can be open or closed works well. If I need to move a lot of something, such as when my wife found a smoking deal on 6000lb of paving stones (seller who over ordered will load pallets with forklift but have to arrange transport yourself), I need to transport my tractor, etc. I’m hooking up the most appropriate of our enclosed trailer or one of the two flatbeds and don’t care one whit how big the truck bed is.

Much as I loved that old D100, the Tundra is much more versatile and capable, even with a smaller bed and bigger cab.
 
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I had a new 1974 Jeep J10, 360 4bbk with quadratrac. 16 or 17 mph was the best I ever got of of it, I put 2000 pound booster springs on it, and I have to say it hauled more fire wood coal gravel dirt and cow/sheep dung than any truck I ever owned, and I never worried about going off road with her. Maybe that was just youth, or bravado I dont know, but it was more truck that I have ever owned since
 

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I have had several japanese mini trucks over the years and none of them were really useful other than for light duty stuff.
I figured you might be refering to "Kei" trucks when you say japanese mini truck. But in case you're not, I can't even throw a 50lb sack of feed in mine without her feeling it. LOL intentional of course.

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I don't know why people fuss at newer trucks. Yes, they are salty. However, I can say without any hesitation that my current 2018 F150 crew cab 6.5 bed is the most comfortable riding and capable vehicle that I've ever owned. Well, actually my wife owns it...she bought it. :)

It's a 400hp 4wd limousine that can tow as well.
 
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I don't know why people fuss at newer trucks.
I definitely don't. They put food on my table....alot of food! Sometimes even the newer ones. Think this one last week was an '18 or so.

But you're right and the F150 is a damn nice truck!
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Just a thought on expensive diesel oil changes .... I don't know if you like crawling underneath or not, but you might consider a Fumoto valve. It lets you fill gallon containers one at a time which makes moving the oil, etc pretty easy. I buy my Rotella T-6 oil on Amazon or Walmart. I also only use OEM oil filters. I've read too many stories about filters crushing.

I find oil changes for my F450 more convenient at home compared to scheduling an appt and leaving it.
 
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No first-hand experience, but I do remember reading that certain Ford trucks needed to have cabs removed for servicing turbos, head gaskets or something like that.

And before us Chebby guys get too happy, the oil bathed rubber timing belt (actually, the replacing of it) killed my interest in a diesel Tahoe 🥴
 
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No first-hand experience, but I do remember reading that certain Ford trucks needed to have cabs removed for servicing turbos, head gaskets or something like that.
The regular Ford mechanics can take the entire cab off in less than an hour. I think I remember seeing one post from a mechanic that said he could do it in 30 minutes. In other words, they are made to take off, so it's a lot less labor intensive.

Actually, was a very good job engineering although it does sound strange. ;)
 
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The regular Ford mechanics can take the entire cab off in less than an hour. I think I remember seeing one post from a mechanic that said he could do it in 30 minutes. In other words, they are made to take off, so it's a lot less labor intensive.

Actually, was a very good job engineering although it does sound strange. ;)
It is rather scary though after experiencing oil changes with too much of the wrong oil, or brake work with the brake hose pulled tight across the coil spring.
 

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Just a thought on expensive diesel oil changes .... I don't know if you like crawling underneath or not, but you might consider a Fumoto valve. It lets you fill gallon containers one at a time which makes moving the oil, etc pretty easy. I buy my Rotella T-6 oil on Amazon or Walmart. I also only use OEM oil filters. I've read too many stories about filters crushing.

I find oil changes for my F450 more convenient at home compared to scheduling an appt and leaving it.
My '02 F-250 has a Fumoto drain valve but I typically use a 5-gallon bucket when changing oil. I never thought of filling 1 gallon containers. :unsure:
 

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My '02 F-250 has a Fumoto drain valve but I typically use a 5-gallon bucket when changing oil. I never thought of filling 1 gallon containers. :unsure:

And I don't see any reason to use 1 gallon containers when all the vehicles I own hold at least 6 quarts. For many years I've used a 5 gallon bucket with a lid that has both a spout and a vent included. Stick the oil drain hose from the Fumoto valve down into the spout and the oil drain quickly and without spilling one drop. When the bucket is full I take it to the recycling place and pour it out into their big tank, the vent in the lid makes it quick and easy.
 

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Why 1 gallon? It fits under my truck standing up, is easy to see if it is filled up. Also, easy to pour out at the oil recycler.