No end to BS

The Evil Twin

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They suck. While a 5 business day hold is typical, they suck for making you think it was available.
I tried to get something notarized there once. They said there was a fee for non account holders. I told them that I had a mortgage with them. They said they meant checking or savings. I asked why $13000 / year in interest I was paying wasn't good enough. They relented. But still....
 
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Town closest to me also has a small credit union - but they tell you right away that they are not insured by FDIC so if they were to go belly up, you've lost everything.
You didn't get the whole story.
No CU accounts are not insured by FDIC
But they are Insured by NCUA which insures accounts to the same amount as FDIC.
 
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Just called my new best friend, Sarah, the manager at that branch. A lot of boiler plate talk with what she is going to do (mostly find out why the reversal). As of now she told me the hold will come off 3/28.

She was very sympathetic but really offered no help.

This is the email receipt I received. Why would anyone not expect the funds to be there the next day (and they were when I checked my account the morning of 3/20)?
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My 'guess' would be that someone without the authority to shoot that through (against policy), did just that...and once discovered, it was corrected.
 

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Several years ago we had a family owned business that consisted of commercial real estate rental property. We sold the real estate and wound down the business. After all the wind down activities were complete, the last task was to distribute the corporation’s cash, which was its only remaining asset, to my brother, our father, and me. Brother requested a wire transfer, Dad preferred writing checks, I didn’t care. Dad wrote checks.

I walked into the regional bank I dealt with, the kind of place where the branch manager still had authority to make things happen, and deposited a $750k check into a money market account that already had $120k in it. I knew funds wouldn’t be available for several days so I’d have to wait to transfer it out to its final destinations. What I didn’t expect was for my low balance alert on that account text me at 8am three days later advising me my account balance was -110k.

I was sitting in my office at work, meeting with two other managers when the text came in. Glanced at my phone, showed them the text so they’d know why they were leaving my office immediately and they left without further prompting. Called my local branch. Lady that answered said the branch manager had a customer in his office but he had advised them to interrupt him if I called before he called me as he needed to speak to me. He said the $750k check was drawn on a closed account. Told him that’s swell, but what happened to the $120k that was there before the $750k was deposited? He looked it up on the customer portal so he could see what I was looking at and said he didn’t know why it showed a negative balance but the $120k was still there. I still had access to that and my other accounts. He asked if I knew what the deal was with the bad check. Told him a mistake involving an old man and an old bank account, but no malicious intent so no fraud or other criminality. He said being they knew me and my father, they figured it was something like that so they hadn’t referred it to their fraud department pending discussion with me.

My brother called twice while I was on the phone with my bank. Call him back. All his business and personal stuff was with Bank of America. He was running a business with employees, suppliers, customers. Haven’t heard him that wound up before or since. BOFA froze ALL his accounts, not just the personal one where he deposited the bad check. His regular banker referred him to their fraud department who told him they were investigating an irregular transaction, wouldn’t give him any further details, and wouldn’t tell him how long his accounts would be frozen. He couldn’t pay his suppliers, couldn’t pay his employees, and couldn’t process payments from customers. Only reason he knew the origin of the issue was because I told him. He was able to get his business accounts unfrozen in time to make payroll but it took some effort.

That regional bank that served us very well for many years merged with another regional bank and not long after the local managers no longer had authority to do much of anything. All the decision makers were like the Wizard of Oz, hiding behind a curtain of front line employees and low level managers stuck with defending their anonymous foot dragging decisions or lack of decisions to customers. Customers never communicate with anyone with any authority.

Started banking with Wachovia. They were great for many years. They merged with First Union, went to Wizard of Oz model, and we left for BB&T. BB&T was great for many years. They merged with SunTrust, went to the Wizard of Oz model, and we left for Fidelity Bank NC/VA. Seems like the size of the bank is inversely proportional to quality of services. Maybe I just don’t have enough money to play with the big banks.
 
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I recommend Capitol One checking and money market accounts. I've had nothing but good experiences dealing with them. Their money market account interest rate is 3.7%.
 
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I have Navy Federal Credit Union and I love it. You can reach a real person 24x7x365. You can open CD's online or over the phone or in a branch in person. Interest rates for CD's is much higher than BoA and loan rates are lower too. CU's are the way to go these days.
 
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They are by far the very worst banking institution...and have been for many years.

To put it mildly, they suck. Beat feet out of there.
 

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Y'all just need to be broke like me and you wouldn't have all these problems LOL.

Reading this thread further backs up that, although I've been employed my entire life, I definitely did not make any right decisions financially. The wifes happy and all the kids are clothed and fed but hearing about a 120k or 750k deposit is quite literally jaw dropping.

It's a tough job sometimes managing these tens of dollars but we get it done. I mean obviously I've made it somewhat.....I mean I got a freakin Kubota, come on.

****Lifetime member of "The Work Until You Drop" program****
 
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It's a tough job sometimes managing these tens of dollars but we get it done. I mean obviously I've made it somewhat.....I mean I got a freakin Kubota, come on.
Welcome to my club. You have young kids. Kids are expensive. Gets easier when they're grown up.

Heck - you've got a "real" Kubota with a cab.

I've got a glorified lawn mower.....CALLING @hagrid :oops: ;)

The only saving grace is I'm now retired and broke....;)
 
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hearing about a 120k or 750k deposit is quite literally jaw dropping.
Just about the time I think I'm really doing well, something like this happens:

I was at my financial advisor's office dropping off some paperwork.
The receptionist/financial tech was on the phone with someone so I took a seat and waited.
I could not help hearing her end of the conversation-

"OK, I will transfer 4 million from the account with the last four digits of XXXX, and place it in the account with the last four digits of XXXX, so the new total will be 17 million, correct?
Great, i'm glad that will cover your purchase.
Funds will be available immediately.

Have a nice day!"

Crap.
 
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Just about the time I think I'm really doing well, something like this happens:

I was at my financial advisor's office dropping off some paperwork.
The receptionist/financial tech was on the phone with someone so I took a seat and waited.
I could not help hearing her end of the conversation-

"OK, I will transfer 4 million from the account with the last four digits of XXXX, and place it in the account with the last four digits of XXXX, so the new total will be 17 million, correct?
Great, i'm glad that will cover your purchase.
Funds will be available immediately.

Have a nice day!"

Crap.
Wow - that’s amazing! 😳
 
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Welcome to my club. You have young kids. Kids are expensive. Gets easier when they're grown up.
I've been told this a couple times. I do see some light at the end of the tunnel.

But retirement? Not sure I'm gonna get that one figured out LOL.
Just about the time I think I'm really doing well, something like this happens:

I was at my financial advisor's office dropping off some paperwork.
The receptionist/financial tech was on the phone with someone so I took a seat and waited.
I could not help hearing her end of the conversation-

"OK, I will transfer 4 million from the account with the last four digits of XXXX, and place it in the account with the last four digits of XXXX, so the new total will be 17 million, correct?
Great, i'm glad that will cover your purchase.
Funds will be available immediately.

Have a nice day!"

Crap.
That is just amazing. I bet they had more than just a nice day lol.
 
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After I thought about it for a while, the amazing part to me was that with clients like that, my financial advisor still had time to handle my paltry sums and make me some green. :)
 
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Not going to get political, but lately my financial advisor has been this..... :oops:

My question was "Should I buy more beer?"
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In today's local news...I'd call it a good start.;)



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large deposits are subject to federal approval and such

basically if over 10 grand (not 10,000, it has to be 10,000.01 or more), fincen forces banks (laws...) to do certain things.. They'll hold and/or confiscate the money if they feel like illegal activities are being done. During the time it takes for the government to research your spending habits and your deposit habits, the bank holds the money. Usually up to a week, just in case the fed thinks you're doing something illegal. That's the very basics of it.

Part of a set of laws that are antiquated, IMO. Hurts as many people as it helps nowadays.

There as a podcast I listened to on spotify a while back that explained it in plain language that you and ( understand. I think it was called the economics of everyday things or something like that. Pretty interesting and probably a lot of knowledge that most people don't know. I did, becuase of having to deal with the IRS over it from 2012 through 2017. It also exposes how the IRS has control over your personal financial information. Banks are required to give the government that information if it's requested, and it often is in larger transactions.

Sold a car to an individual a while back, was going to do the deal at the bank and I told the guy that the bank was gonna request his information because of the amount of money involved. He got real nervous and backed out, which told me that he's probably spending money that was obtained illegally. Moved onto another buyer (same price) and the deal was done, although it took the bank several business days for the money to actually show in my account.

 
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