Issues with valve stems with rim guard

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Has anyone run into issues with their valve stems with rim guard ( beet juice). Valve stem cores coming out when stem cap is taken off.
 

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Are you asking because it is a recurring problem for you or because you have heard rumors that it could happen?

I haven't personally had any issues with this occurring.
 

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HOW does it happen? I’ve only had mine off once to check pressure, little messy and I made sure stems were at 12 o’clock.
 

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You are correct on both accounts. I have heard issues with valve stem cores coming out when you unscrew stem cap. This occurred to me when I attempted to check tire pressure in a tire filled with rim guard. Screwed stem cap back on quickly. Did lose some beet juice. My other tractor tire is filled with windshield washer fluid. My dealer advised they were experiencing some issues with rim guard and tire stems, hence why washer fluid was used in my second tractor for ballast. If you are going to check yours, jack up rear and take weight off tire. Be ready to screw cap back on.
 

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I don't understand the mechanism here- is the rim guard is somehow loosening (or preventing the tightening) of the valve core?
Or is this an unknown cause?
 

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I don't understand the mechanism here- is the rim guard is somehow loosening (or preventing the tightening) of the valve core?
Or is this an unknown cause?
My guess is that it leaks out and forms a solid mass sticking the core to the dust cap so that they both come off when the cap comes off. J
 
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My guess is that it leaks out and forms a solid mass sticking the core to the dust cap so that they both come off when the cap comes off. J
This was my thought as well, but that stuff doesn’t look like something that dries up unless maybe left in open air.
 

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My guess is that it leaks out and forms a solid mass sticking the core to the dust cap so that they both come off when the cap comes off. J
That is weird.
 

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sounds more like a messy installation.....
the valvestem area wasn't cleaned off BEFORE the cap was put on ??
 

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You shouldn't be leaking any juice if the valve is at the 12 o'clock position. Clean your valve stems and valves before re-assembly.
Yes you will because the tires are filled to the top of the rim with the tractor jacked up. So when the tractor is down off the jack and sitting on the tire, the ballast, rim guard or washer fluid, is compressed so that it is no over the top of the valve stem.
 
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Yes you will because the tires are filled to the top of the rim with the tractor jacked up. So when the tractor is down off the jack and sitting on the tire, the ballast, rim guard or washer fluid, is compressed so that it is no over the top of the valve stem.
Sounds like they are overfilled to me
 

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That is for CACL, not beet juice or washer fluid. Not really germane however. If you fill the tube with any liquid ballast with the tire elevated, once the tire is lowered to the ground and the weight of the tractor compresses the tire, the liquid will be at a higher level than the valve stem (which is in the lower part of the rim, in all cases. Any liquid seeks it's own level and when compressed (by the weight of the tractor itself), the liquid will always rise in containment.

Interesting, while I do not run loaded rears, my farm tractor tire company (I use Speck Tire and Miller Tire, neither like Rim Guard, they both prefer windshield washer fluid. Again, I don't use any. No need to. My cast centers provide plenty of tractive effort.
 

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Yes you will because the tires are filled to the top of the rim with the tractor jacked up. So when the tractor is down off the jack and sitting on the tire, the ballast, rim guard or washer fluid, is compressed so that it is no over the top of the valve stem.
That is 100% correct.
 

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Sounds like they are overfilled to me
I think even if they were half filled you would get a little bit come out when checking pressure. Just from what is left on the valve stem from tire rotation. There wasn’t a lot.. just not use to having anything but air come out of my tires when checking pressure.
 

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Sounds like they are overfilled to me
BAP is correct. Also depending on how the ballast was added to the tire. Rim guard is most generally pumped in although I suppose the tire could be removed, bead broken and rim guard dumped or pumped in that way. Washer fluid again can be pumped in or dumped in a unbeaded tire. The Kubota dealer I worked at pumped in rim guard or filled with washer fluid by removing tire and dumping in the unbeaded tire. Either way I guess you could underfill or overfill. Again take the weight off the tire when checking air pressure.
 

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Also on another note, I have heard of at least one situation where a person had a tire explode with rim guard in tire which created quite a mess. Don't know the specifics. I understand this occurred in the summer time in a garage. This is not to discourage the use of rim guard as it has its good advantages over other ballast, more weight and non-toxic.
 

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You are correct on both accounts. I have heard issues with valve stem cores coming out when you unscrew stem cap. This occurred to me when I attempted to check tire pressure in a tire filled with rim guard. Screwed stem cap back on quickly. Did lose some beet juice. My other tractor tire is filled with windshield washer fluid. My dealer advised they were experiencing some issues with rim guard and tire stems, hence why washer fluid was used in my second tractor for ballast. If you are going to check yours, jack up rear and take weight off tire. Be ready to screw cap back on.
I had this happen on my BX with the rubber tubeless tire valve stems (OEM). I contacted Rimguard and was told these stems should have been replaced with brass stems when the tires were loaded. Rubber valve stems are for air only, liquids have a tendency to affect core/rubber vulcanization. (guess the dealer didn't want to take the time or effort to do it right before loading the tires) I replaced both stems with Colby valves, saved removing and breaking down the tires and they have worked great 2 years now.
 

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My BX came with the chrome/brass stems on the rear.