Intake blows white smoke, no start

FlyAHull

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New to the forum. Searched a bit before posting. I have a new to me B6100e with a D650. Tractor sat for many years in a shed after owners got discouraged having bought it used and stopped running soon after purchase. They said they brought it home, ran once and never ran again.

Symptoms: when cranking, intake blows white smoke. no noticeable exhaust pressure felt along exhaust ports

Troubleshooting performed: 1. Adjusted valves, no change, 2. Pulled head, confirmed no warpage or blown head gasket or cracks, 3. Reseated valves using grinding paste, 4. Replaced head gasket, 5. Reassembled, set timing by pulling idler gear and aligning all marks, 5. Set valves

Still blows out intake. Looking for suggestions.
 

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An intake valve is sticking open is my best guess
 

FlyAHull

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I’ve no experience with anything other than a “stuck” valve which is visually easy to detect as it does not move. For a sticking valve, is there a method of detecting?
 

woodman55

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There are keys for the crankshaft, camshaft, and injection pump gears. Maybe it sheared one when it quit on the last owners. That would through it out of time. It maybe out enough to through it out of time and not run, but not enough to bend valves.
 

FlyAHull

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Woodman, I inspected and set the timing marks between injector pump, cam and crank and don’t suspect timing slip. However, it almost seems as though the intake and exhaust valves are opening in reverse order from what I would expect.

when I rotate the crank (counter clockwise, looking at the front of engine), the intake valve opens, closes and immediately followed by the exhaust open/close then a full revolution with no movement (power stroke cycle?).

im using the following vid as reference for diesel engine cycle:
 

lynnmor

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I’ve no experience with anything other than a “stuck” valve which is visually easy to detect as it does not move. For a sticking valve, is there a method of detecting?
Since you adjusted the valves it should have been apparent if a valve was sticking while doing the adjustment.
 

woodman55

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It sounds right other than looking at the front of the engine it should be turning clockwise, counter clockwise if looking at the flywheel end. When you turn it with the starter, which way does it turn ? If it is turning backwards, that would explain a lot.
 

woodman55

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Interesting. Most engines turn opposite that. If you lower the 3pt all the way down, then move the lever to raise, then crank the engine and the 3pt starts to lift, then we know for sure the engine is turning in the correct rotation. Another way would be to connect a engine oil pressure gauge and see if it builds pressure while cranking.
 

FlyAHull

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the Starter does not look factory or original. Have not looked but any chance the mower is positive ground like older turn of the century tractors?
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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No it's not a positive ground tractor.
The motor should be turning CW NOT CCW.
The starter is spinning it the wrong direction.

The only way for that to be possible is the starter is wrong, how it's wrong is beyond me, because for it to spin the motor the opposite direction it not only has to spin backwards, but has to have the Bendix made backwards too.
 
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GreensvilleJay

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so maybe the battery is wired up backwards ??
1st place to check
someone may have installed a -R battery. correct rating but REVERESD terminals.