Engine replacement on Agrifab yard chip n vac

[Whitetail Hunter]

I know this isn't a Orange piece of equipment, but I will repaint this dang thing if someone can help me. I am just wondering if anyone has replaced the $400.00+ Briggs & Stratton engine with a Predator 212. If you did, where did you find the adapter for the shaft? I have spent a few days trying to find one and can't find it. I have ordered a couple from Amazon where the reviews say they will work, but when they arrive, they are wrong. I know I can't be the only one who has run into this issue. I have watched a few videos on you tube, but no help. Thanks in advance for any help you could give, or provide a link to the adapter, etc......

 

[fried1765]

I know this isn't a Orange piece of equipment, but I will repaint this dang thing if someone can help me. I am just wondering if anyone has replaced the $400.00+ Briggs & Stratton engine with a Predator 212. If you did, where did you find the adapter for the shaft? I have spent a few days trying to find one and can't find it. I have ordered a couple from Amazon where the reviews say they will work, but when they arrive, they are wrong. I know I can't be the only one who has run into this issue. I have watched a few videos on you tube, but no help. Thanks in advance for any help you could give, or provide a link to the adapter, etc......

Grainger....... ?????

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

No help either, even went directly to the store for help.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I know this isn't a Orange piece of equipment, but I will repaint this dang thing if someone can help me. I am just wondering if anyone has replaced the $400.00+ Briggs & Stratton engine with a Predator 212. If you did, where did you find the adapter for the shaft? I have spent a few days trying to find one and can't find it. I have ordered a couple from Amazon where the reviews say they will work, but when they arrive, they are wrong. I know I can't be the only one who has run into this issue. I have watched a few videos on you tube, but no help. Thanks in advance for any help you could give, or provide a link to the adapter, etc......

What sort of adapter is needed?

Dan

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

The predator has a 3/4 square shaft, and the briggs has a 1" to 7/8" tapered shaft.

 

[TheOldHokie]

The predator has a 3/4 square shaft, and the briggs has a 1" to 7/8" tapered shaft.

SQUARE????

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

What I meant was it is round, but instead of a tapered, it is the same 3/4" diameter. Accord to Brigg's they call it a "squared" end instead of tapered. I thought that was a little misleading, myself.

 

[MOOTS]

Pictures of what needs to be adapted?
Looked it up. The impeller bolts to engine shaft.
You could cut out the tapered mount and weld in the keyed 3/4 shaft from a pulley or something similar. I’ve done the same on a walk behind blower when I swapped a predator on it. It had some odd ball mount, cut it out and welded a good chunk of metal with 3/4 shaft. It even runs pretty true!

 

[TheOldHokie]

What I meant was it is round, but instead of a tapered, it is the same 3/4" diameter. Accord to Brigg's they call it a "squared" end instead of tapered. I thought that was a little misleading, myself.

I am totally lost.

The Predator has a 3/4" round crankshaft with 3/16" square key. What does it have to mate with?

Dan

 

[MOOTS]

I am totally lost.

The Predator has a 3/4" round crankshaft with 3/16" square key. What does it have to mate with?

Dan

Parts breakdown doesn’t show it, but I’d guess something like a golf cart clutch. Most are 1” shaft that tapers down to 3/4 or so. No keyway.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Parts breakdown doesn’t show it, but I’d guess something like a golf cart clutch. Most are 1” shaft that tapers down to 3/4 or so. No keyway.

Thats what I was thinking. They often have a nut on the end of the shaft to pull the taper down.

Dan

 

[MOOTS]

Thats what I was thinking. They often have a nut on the end of the shaft to pull the taper down.

Dan

Breakdown shows a bolt and washer, but yes, same principle.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Breakdown shows a bolt and washer, but yes, same principle.

Predator is drilled and tapped 5/16 UNF

Dan

 

[Speed25]

Just get the 301cc Predator with the 1" shaft, mount the thing to a workbench/board/whatever, fire it up and let the spinning shaft act as a lathe while you file/grind it down to the proper taper.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Just get the 301cc Predator with the 1" shaft, mount the thing to a workbench/board/whatever, fire it up and let the spinning shaft act as a lathe while you file/grind it down to the proper taper.

3/4" Gas GOLF CART Tapered Drive Clutch Shaft Adapter Predator Honda Clone GX200 | eBay

This adapter works great with all Honda Clone engines using a 3/4" output shaft. 2-1/2" to 2-3/4" of the output shaft protruding from the crank case is generally the ideal. The crankshaft may need to be cut, drilled and re-tapped to get your clutch as close as possible to your engine case.

www.ebay.com

 

[MOOTS]

3/4" Gas GOLF CART Tapered Drive Clutch Shaft Adapter Predator Honda Clone GX200 | eBay

This adapter works great with all Honda Clone engines using a 3/4" output shaft. 2-1/2" to 2-3/4" of the output shaft protruding from the crank case is generally the ideal. The crankshaft may need to be cut, drilled and re-tapped to get your clutch as close as possible to your engine case.

www.ebay.com

What can’t you find! Lol. Bet that will do the trick, unless it’s some odd ball taper… hopefully @Whitetail Hunter comes back.

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

Guys.... Thanks those are some really GREAT ideas. Sorry, IT dept had me offline for a little bit. Technology is great when it works!!! OldHokie, Moots and Speed 25 thanks for all the suggestions!! I think the simple (and cheapest) thing would be to try one of the 3/4" golf taper adapter, but Speed25's idea will work as well. It's a little more expensive, but not as pricey as a Briggs. I just got tired of always having to work on the Briggs..

 

[MOOTS]

Guys.... Thanks those are some really GREAT ideas. Sorry, IT dept had me offline for a little bit. Technology is great when it works!!! OldHokie, Moots and Speed 25 thanks for all the suggestions!! I think the simple (and cheapest) thing would be to try one of the 3/4" golf taper adapter, but Speed25's idea will work as well. It's a little more expensive, but not as pricey as a Briggs. I just got tired of always having to work on the Briggs..

Please report back, with pictures of that adapter in the impeller and installed. Might come in handy for a few things I have.

 

[Whitetail Hunter]

Will do. Have a Happy Easter!

 

[Dustball]

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