Dead trees

[skeets]

I just came up from over the hill, theres a Maple tree that died this summer so I figure it will come down when Doc says I can play some more. But as I was looking at how to drop it I noticed another dead tree an Ash, ok no big deal I ll take it down too, then I saw another and another and from where I was standing I counted 10 maybe 12 Ash that have died this summer. Black walnuts, OK Wild Cherry OK, scrap popular's OK, just the Ash trees,, Im guessing the Emerald Ash bore beetle has paid me a visit. A shame really, one more gift from our friends in Asia, or so I was told. On the up side I guess I dont have to go to far for wood. But still a shame

 

[Tooljunkie]

I have a tree line on 3 sides of my property. Clearing my dead ones would heat shop and house for a couple years. I give it away.

 

[sheepfarmer]

Sorry to hear that, if it is like the way it has gone around here, you will have firewood for the next decade or two. Not being handy with a chainsaw, * I have become a very good customer of a tree removal company. Something like 26 ashes the first year. Every year it is a few more and that is only the ones that would fall on fences or the house. Standing dead trees are so common I can't even give them away.

* To my somewhat great amusement yesterday the hand specialist (who likes GREEN tractors ) spent a half hour lecturing me on the consequences of not heeding his advice about dialing back on farm activities, and only use tractors with really good power steering,etc etc suggested I'd better give up my Stihl chainsaw too. I think he was trying to be funny for the benefit of the med student listening, but I actually do have a Stihl chainsaw, but somewhere about 30 years ago decided I'd never have the forearm strength to control it safely, and leave it for other people to use.

 

[imnukensc]

A shame about your ash trees. I only have one and so far have seen no evidence of EAB. My problem is my dogwoods. When I moved here 12 years ago I quit counting at 60 on my couple of acres. Fewer of them now due to anthracnose.

 

[boz1989]

For the last several years I've been cutting dead ash to feed 3 outdoor boilers and can't keep up with them.

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[Yooper]

I have a lot of green ash trees on my property. How long does it take those ash borers to kill a tree? One summer?

 

[ipz2222]

It's Leland cypress around here. I have 10 on my property and 4 will be dead by the end of summer and 2 more have a lot of dead limbs on them. A lot of people have so many dead ones that they are cutting down all of them. It's blamed on the extremely hot and dry summer last year, allowed some kind of disease to get into the bark.

 

[sheepfarmer]

I have a lot of green ash trees on my property. How long does it take those ash borers to kill a tree? One summer?

Yooper, I don't know precisely how long the bugs have to be borrowing around under the bark, but it seems like a tree will "look" fine one year and be dead the next. Maybe there is a threshold distribution of tunnels in the cambium that will block sap flow.
There are D shaped holes in the bark to tell if a tree is infested, and if dead and you pry off bark you can see the tunnels. Regrettably they like green ash trees. You can treat a tree with systemic pesticides to protect and save it, may be worth doing for ones around the house.

 

[Daren Todd]

It's Leland cypress around here. I have 10 on my property and 4 will be dead by the end of summer and 2 more have a lot of dead limbs on them. A lot of people have so many dead ones that they are cutting down all of them. It's blamed on the extremely hot and dry summer last year, allowed some kind of disease to get into the bark.

We had a similar issue with oaks about 6 or 7 years ago. Had a really wet spring. Followed by a Tornado, then drought in early august. So the ones in the area that survived got pretty stressed. Had a dry fall and winter with severe drought the following spring and summer with extreme temps from 100 to 130 degrees for 6 weeks during said drought. That added to the stress. Half the oaks that survived the tornado got some fungal disease in the bark and died off. Bark turned almost white in color, then the tree died.

 

[Yooper]

Yooper, I don't know precisely how long the bugs have to be borrowing around under the bark, but it seems like a tree will "look" fine one year and be dead the next. Maybe there is a threshold distribution of tunnels in the cambium that will block sap flow.
There are D shaped holes in the bark to tell if a tree is infested, and if dead and you pry off bark you can see the tunnels. Regrettably they like green ash trees. You can treat a tree with systemic pesticides to protect and save it, may be worth doing for ones around the house.

Thanks Mary! I'm going to do some research on those D shaped holes and if I find some, I'll post pictures.

 

[sdk1968]

I just came up from over the hill, theres a Maple tree that died this summer so I figure it will come down when Doc says I can play some more. But as I was looking at how to drop it I noticed another dead tree an Ash, ok no big deal I ll take it down too, then I saw another and another and from where I was standing I counted 10 maybe 12 Ash that have died this summer. Black walnuts, OK Wild Cherry OK, scrap popular's OK, just the Ash trees,, Im guessing the Emerald Ash bore beetle has paid me a visit. A shame really, one more gift from our friends in Asia, or so I was told. On the up side I guess I dont have to go to far for wood. But still a shame

YUP.

ive now got 16 ash tree's to take down this fall that are in "reach" of the house ... lots of firewood.

lots of work & lots of stumps to deal with.. hence my stump grinder thread..

the rest that are all over the property im just gonna let go until they become an issue or we need firewood.


oh as sheepfarmer said: my bark is just peeling off like removing a shirt.. will get you guys a pic.

 

[skeets]

Please no pictures of you peeling your shirt off

 

[sdk1968]

Please no pictures of you peeling your shirt off

no you definitely dont want to see that... im skinny-fat.. LMAO

will grab a pic tomorrow of the one closest to the house.

 

[1999harleyRN]

It seems like many of us are having tree issues. My wife inherited 180 acres after her Dad passed. When we walked it this spring with the state forester he pointed out several beech trees with beech bark disease. He said some folks are just cutting down all their beech because of it, spraying the suckers, as well as cutting all their ash due to EAB. Seems a little drastic in my opinion but would definitely make for some good deer and turkey habitat as well as years of firewood.

 

[Yooper]

It seems like many of us are having tree issues. My wife inherited 180 acres after her Dad passed. When we walked it this spring with the state forester he pointed out several beech trees with beech bark disease. He said some folks are just cutting down all their beech because of it, spraying the suckers, as well as cutting all their ash due to EAB. Seems a little drastic in my opinion but would definitely make for some good deer and turkey habitat as well as years of firewood.

You bring up a good point. Back in the olden days when I worked as a logger, a mature forest was kind of a spooky place. The only life you would see were spiders. Whack it down and let the seeds in the ground start sprouting and then you start seeing small game and deer. Not all bad I guess.

 

[KennedyFarmer]

I have several dead ash, Some suprisingly, are still half alive but the borer is gone. Seems with the weather this year. Very wet spring, a stormy july, I feel like I have used the Stihl more than the Kubota this year. However, the kubota is usually helping clean up the mess the Stihl makes.

 

[RCW]

We have EAB in our area. Lot of ash was cut/sold a few years ago, most for decent money.
I sold ~100,000 board feet of ash off property owned by the county I work for a few years ago. Seems it brought $4 or 500/1,000.


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[sdk1968]

ok here is the one right next to my house.. about 12' away & its 30+ tall.

see how the bark just sits around it now?

 

[RCW]

Gosh, quick look said frost crack or lightning.

Second look didn't show the damage associated with either.

Never saw EAB up close, but sure looks like some of the descriptions I've read.

Any of the grooves from beetle burrows?


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[sdk1968]

Gosh, quick look said frost crack or lightning.

Second look didn't show the damage associated with either.

Never saw EAB up close, but sure looks like some of the descriptions I've read.

Any of the grooves from beetle burrows?


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oh yeah... you can literally just shove that bark/husk off the tree & see the race track they made.

the other thing is my army of woodpeckers look like the hulk in his youth.

got several different types & they have made these trees look like swiss cheese.


edit note: wife ties teh yellow ribbons on them if they are the ones she wants me to cut down.. i told you guys we were up to 16, SHE says 21& that im just blind & cant count.