Adding rear hydraulics

old and tired

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OEM remotes are by far the cleanest, best looking and more functional than ANY set up... My set up was $650 (with lots of "extra" parts that I didn't use 🤑) and it looks like it!!!!

Seriously, call a Kubota Salesman and ask for the WholeGoods price of 2 spool/valves (you'll need to know what type and if you want any extra features, float or detent). So you can make an informed choice... Just know that they might be prone to internal "leakage" (heard it on a forum!!!)
 
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OEM remotes are by far the cleanest, best looking and more functional than ANY set up... My set up was $650 (with lots of "extra" parts that I didn't use 🤑) and it looks like it!!!!

Seriously, call a Kubota Salesman and ask for the WholeGoods price of 2 spool/valves (you'll need to know what type and if you want any extra features, float or detent). So you can make an informed choice... Just know that they might be prone to internal "leakage" (heard it on a forum!!!)
Without a doubt, the OEM valve sets look the best.

But why do you think that they are more functional? :unsure:
 

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But why do you think that they are more functional? :unsure:
Location of the levers are tucked in tight by your right hand. You don't need to reach out for them. Every other set up, you are reaching further for that lever. I would say that anything attached to the ROPS; you are having to twist your body around to access the handles (at least the ones I've seen).
 
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Location of the levers are tucked in tight by your right hand. You don't need to reach out for them. Every other set up, you are reaching further for that lever. I would say that anything attached to the ROPS; you are having to twist your body around to access the handles (at least the ones I've seen).
The OEM controls are tucked in tight between the seat and fender.
I'm not sure that down and back or even down is ergonomic for me. But ergonomics varies from person to person.
The control levers in the picture can be as pictured (obviously) or forward. Either way, the operator is not reaching backwards to be able to control the valves.
 

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The OEM controls are tucked in tight between the seat and fender.
I'm not sure that down and back or even down is ergonomic for me. But ergonomics varies from person to person.
The control levers in the picture can be as pictured (obviously) or forward. Either way, the operator is not reaching backwards to be able to control the valves.
That's a decent looking setup but I'd have to try it to see if it's ergonomic.

It's only through comparison that we figure out what works best. We can get used to just about anything, but it's only when we try something better that we appreciate the difference. For example, the controls in the M6060 are way, way, way better than than the controls in the MX. I am acutely aware of the difference when I go back and forth between the two tractors.

If the MX controls were like the L60 controls I think that MX would be a near perfect tractor. It's not a deal breaker, and we learn to live with what we have, but if there was a kit available to move the rear remote controls to a location similar to the M6060 I'd be all over that. I really don't care about any of the other features in the L60 tractors and have no need of them, but I do prefer the controls and how they're arranged.

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That's a decent looking setup but I'd have to try it to see if it's ergonomic.

It's only through comparison that we figure out what works best. We can get used to just about anything, but it's only when we try something better that we appreciate the difference. For example, the controls in the M6060 are way, way, way better than than the controls in the MX. I am acutely aware of the difference when I go back and forth between the two tractors.

If the MX controls were like the L60 controls I think that MX would be a near perfect tractor. It's not a deal breaker, and we learn to live with what we have, but if there was a kit available to move the rear remote controls to a location similar to the M6060 I'd be all over that. I really don't care about any of the other features in the L60 tractors and have no need of them, but I do prefer the controls and how they're arranged.

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Your M6060 has what I consider the ideal control lever location, but that might just be you and me that think that. ;)
My 75hp tractor has the levers down between the seat and the fender behind the 3pt controls. A bit back to far for my liking. I do not care for them in the location, but as you said, we get use to what we have. Mine are all linkage controlled vs cable control and I do like that. (y)
 
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Your M6060 has what I consider the ideal control lever location, but that might just be you and me that think that. ;)
My 75hp tractor has the levers down between the seat and the fender behind the 3pt controls. A bit back to far for my liking. I do not care for them in the location, but as you said, we get use to what we have. Mine are all linkage controlled vs cable control and I do like that. (y)
I haven't spent much time in the larger M tractors, but yes, the layout in the M6060 is about as good as it gets for old school type tractors. I really like the location of the rear remote levers and everything works in a smooth and repeatable manner.

Some of the bigger tractors such as the M7 have way fancier controls for the spools, but I think this is the end of the road for me in terms of tractor ownership unless I find a big bag of cash in the woods! I'd have to get one of these M7-174 models with the fancy arm rest that moves up and down with the seat! I'd need to do some research on closed center vs. open center hydraulics but that would be a fun problem to have.

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The OEM controls are tucked in tight between the seat and fender.
I'm not sure that down and back or even down is ergonomic for me. But ergonomics varies from person to person.
The control levers in the picture can be as pictured (obviously) or forward. Either way, the operator is not reaching backwards to be able to control the valves.
Nice setup pictured.
You build it or is that a kit?
I like that location as normally when operating rear remotes you're side seated looking back.
Any issue resting your arm on the hot hydraulic lines?