Kubota M5700 Hydraulic Shuttle wont go forward or reverse

[Aeromechanick]

Greetings all, first post here.

I own a Kubota M5700 Hydraulic Shuttle that is used for mowing brush mostly.
Today I was extracting a stuck vehicle (massive snowfall) and the tractor was working great.
I pulled the tractor into the driveway, neutralized the shuttle shift lever, took it out of gear and applied the parking brake.

When I remounted the tractor 60 seconds later, I throttled up to 1500rpm, let off the parking brake, depressed clutch, put it in gear, flipped the shuttle shift to forward and let out the clutch.

nothing.

Moved the clutch, shuttle shifter into myriad positions…nothing. When I let out the clutch it doesn’t even vibrate differently…just smooth running engine, no tractor movement whatsoever. No perceived clutch engagement, slip, chatter…no sensation of any mechanical engagement at all.

It’s cold out.

I popped the hydraulic shuttle valve cover off, all linkage is intact and functioning. When I actuate the clutch, the valve spool shaft moves in and out. When I move the shuttle shift lever, its associated valve spool shaft moves in and out corresponding to the fwd, neutral, and reverse detents.

Did I just shear an o-ring off inside and fluid is bypassing?

Are those bench repairable?

Please help

Happy Friday to all!
-Nick

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Do you have the WSM?
Very uncommon for a shuttle valve to just go south!

Start with the simple things:

Have you checked the range lever?
I've got my money on this one!

Have you checked the fluid level?

 

[Aeromechanick]

Do you have the WSM?
Very uncommon for a shuttle valve to just go south!

Start with the simple things:
Have you checked the range lever?
Have you checked the fluid level?

I do have a WSM with Hydraulic Shuttle supplement. There is very little in the supplement that is helpful other than it acknowledges that a wet clutch is involved and hydraulic shuttle valve is present, how to split the tractor to replace the clutch or trans innards, and how to R&R the shuttle valve assembly and check it’s rigging.

no troubleshooting steps or suggestions.

trans/clutch/gearbox is serviced to high level index mark with brand new udt2.

will check and verify all other levers mañana to verify once more per your suggestion.

thanks for the dialog so far!

 

[Tx Jim]

How many hrs of use since hyd filters were changed? Have you checked hyd oil level recently?

 

[Aeromechanick]

Do you have the WSM?
Very uncommon for a shuttle valve to just go south!

Start with the simple things:

Have you checked the range lever?
I've got my money on this one!

Have you checked the fluid level?

Do you have the WSM?
Very uncommon for a shuttle valve to just go south!

Start with the simple things:

Have you checked the range lever?
I've got my money on this one!

Have you checked the fluid level?

Well this is embarrassing. So, the operator console was packed solidly with snow yesterday and this morning. I took two 5 gal buckets of room temp water out and flushed/melted all the snow completely from the seat compartment and off the range selector and 3pt controls.

As Wolfman had suggested, the range selector had popped out of low and was somewhere in between there and neutral.

it was obscured and cocooned in snow.

humbling learning experience. I’d send you flowers if I could lol!

Thanks for both of your inputs. The tractor operates beautifully. The only problem was my lack of attention to detail

 

[McMXi]

Well this is embarrassing. So, the operator console was packed solidly with snow yesterday and this morning. I took two 5 gal buckets of room temp water out and flushed/melted all the snow completely from the seat compartment and off the range selector and 3pt controls.

As Wolfman had suggested, the range selector had popped out of low and was somewhere in between there and neutral.

it was obscured and cocooned in snow.

humbling learning experience. I’d send you flowers if I could lol!

Thanks for both of your inputs. The tractor operates beautifully. The only problem was my lack of attention to detail

Well done to @North Idaho Wolfman for nailing this one, and well done to you for owning up to the root cause of the problem. Good to hear that all is well with your tractor.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Well this is embarrassing. So, the operator console was packed solidly with snow yesterday and this morning. I took two 5 gal buckets of room temp water out and flushed/melted all the snow completely from the seat compartment and off the range selector and 3pt controls.

As Wolfman had suggested, the range selector had popped out of low and was somewhere in between there and neutral.

it was obscured and cocooned in snow.

humbling learning experience. I’d send you flowers if I could lol!

Thanks for both of your inputs. The tractor operates beautifully. The only problem was my lack of attention to detail

No embarrassment needed!
This is what make this forum great!
Where combined knowledge can save save someone some real grief and expense!

 

[Russell King]

Since I am fairly uneducated in snow and dealing with it (I live in central Texas)…

How did that part of the tractor get packed in snow?

 

[Aeromechanick]

Since I am fairly uneducated in snow and dealing with it (I live in central Texas)…

How did that part of the tractor get packed in snow?

No canopy and the area was wide open to the elements.
I hadn’t had an opportunity to prepare because it has been sunny and 70+ degrees for weeks. Then it decided to snow 10+ inches up here in the mountains.

i brushed the seat off and went to work pulling out a stuck car after a brief warm up, and I think my left foot eventually worked enough hard pack snow up and back to pop the range selector out of low.
My $00.02 after being steered in the appropriate direction by Wolfman.

it was under about 4” of snow until I dumped a bucket of water all over it.

The top pic shows the range selector near center screen. The snow was flush with and slightly above the seat. I carved out a spot to sit.
No canopy, plan to fix that in the next month. Normally it is parked in our barn.

Poor little Civic didn’t stand a chance. Normally snow is pretty easy to get through even in a small sedan here…but this snow session really brought on the deep powder. It was a first for many up here…lots of stranded vehicles.

 

[Aeromechanick]

No canopy and the area was wide open to the elements.
I hadn’t had an opportunity to prepare because it has been sunny and 70+ degrees for weeks. Then it decided to snow 10+ inches up here in the mountains.

i brushed the seat off and went to work pulling out a stuck car after a brief warm up, and I think my left foot eventually worked enough hard pack snow up and back to pop the range selector out of low.
My $00.02 after being steered in the appropriate direction by Wolfman.

it was under about 4” of snow until I dumped a bucket of water all over it.

The top pic shows the range selector near center screen. The snow was flush with and slightly above the seat. I carved out a spot to sit.
No canopy, plan to fix that in the next month. Normally it is parked in our barn.

Poor little Civic didn’t stand a chance. Normally snow is pretty easy to get through even in a small sedan here…but this snow session really brought on the deep powder. It was a first for many up here…lots of stranded vehicles.

Today…snow is already mostly melted.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

So your the one that sent it up here!
Wow what a way to pay back good advice!

The yard this morning:
We were snow free yesterday!
I live in the woods / mountains so it's not that unusual!

 

[Aeromechanick]

So your the one that sent it up here!
Wow what a way to pay back good advice!

The yard this morning:
We were snow free yesterday!
I live in the woods / mountains so it's not that unusual!

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Looks beautiful! Looks a smidge more than 10” there lol! Our snow usually melts within a day or two if not the same day here in our town.