BX Bucket edge, Piranha tooth,pro or straight? Pros and Cons of each.

[Joe.G]

I am leaning towards the regular Piranha bar, I use the bucket for different tasks and I also am trying to protect my bucket. The Pro bar I don't think I can justify the extra cost. What are your guys thoughts for all around use.
Does the Piranha improve digging? Hinder back blading ?

Thanks

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[GreensvilleJay]

Bucket101
a 'toothed' bucket is usually used for digging, chewing up 'dirt'
a 'smooth' bucket is usually used for grading,or precision picking up of material..

I installed the Kubota heavy duty blade for Winter use( snow.....) come Spring, will swap out for my homemade toothed bar(dig dirt,flip compost, scrub removal, etc. ). Yeah, seven 5/8" nuts/bolts/ washers to deal with twice a year......

 

[NCL4701]

I have the regular Piranha. Improvement digging in compacted soil is quite significant. Root cutting ability is a vast improvement. We don’t have much rock in our soil so can’t comment on performance in heavily rocky soil. Moving loose aggregate, it protects the factory edge but performance increase is negligible in my experience. If you ever dig with it, it’s worth every penny plus some.

I had thought I would need to remove it for back dragging finish work. So far, I haven’t needed to remove it, but it’s only two bolts if I ever need to take it off.

No experience with the other two options. As a general observation, buckets on almost every loader of any sort I’ve seen have teeth of some type if they are used for any digging in compacted material. Smooth fronts are used for uncompacted material such as sand, gravel, manure, etc.
If you dig, get teeth.

 

[Lil Foot]

I have the standard Pirahna, and I love it.
It digs easily in our rock hard soil, and it cuts roots that stopped the tractor cold without it.
It also makes sprinkling/spreading a little more even & controllable.
Lastly, it's a quick easy on/off, just two bolts.

 

[Joe.G]

My Bucket is not drilled,
I use this tractor for things around the yard so I don't make a complete mess. I have a mixture of Rocky top soil and once down a little bit it turns into Hard Pan/Clay. There are certain parts of the yard where the dirt is decent as well. I have a fairly large yard so it does varies. I also use this tractor to move saw dust and clean op the paddock.

 

[Shawn T. W]

I have the regular Piranha Tooth Bar, it is a HUGE benefit in digging . . . I have both clay and rocky soil, no noticable difference in back dragging from the factory bucket.

Great for removing brushy growth, dig the bucket into the soil about 1/2", and just scoop them up, it will either grab them and pull out with roots, or cut them off!

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

I have the Piranha Pro reversible bolt-on bar. Like others said the improvement in digging ability is impressive. I have to pull multiple bolts to spin it in the middle to reverse it, so unless I'm doing lawn work I don't reverse it.

Using the tooth bar (not Pro) when digging and no bar (standard bucket) would do well also in my usage, though back-dragging with the bottom of the bucket alone (no sharp bar edge) kind of suck--uh, "isn't as good."

Customer support and product quality are awesome. They're not "cheap" but the quality made me say, "Yeah, this is well worth the price."

 

[mikester]

I'd go Piranha bar as a replacement bucket edge. I personally wouldn't find finer teeth helpful for digging. Might make grading smoother.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Hinder back blading ?

Thanks

Piranha® Tooth Bar - Official Site

www.bxpanded.com

BXpanded Piranha Pro Reversible Bolt-On Toothbar

www.bxpanded.com

BXpanded Piranha Straight Bar

www.bxpanded.com

Joe, I can't comment on the Piranha bar, but if I recall correctly, most people advise against "back blading" with the front lip of the bucket to avoid "bending/twisting" it.

I think the proper way is to use the "heel" of the bucket for that operation.



Although, I am being a bit hypocritical when I say that, cause I have used the front lip on "certain occasions".

 

[Shawn T. W]

If I want a finer finish back dragging, I keep the bucket not quite level, the Piranha Tooth Bar sticks about 3/8 below the factory bucket lip ... If I'm gonna get fussy ... I hook up my land plane!

 

[GreensvilleJay]

you can back drag ,in 'float' position, all day long

 

[Tractor Gal]

My Bucket is not drilled,
I use this tractor for things around the yard so I don't make a complete mess. I have a mixture of Rocky top soil and once down a little bit it turns into Hard Pan/Clay. There are certain parts of the yard where the dirt is decent as well. I have a fairly large yard so it does varies. I also use this tractor to move saw dust and clean op the paddock.

I added the Bxpanded Piranha regular tooth bar to the bucket of a LA211 on a BX23D. I was apprehensive about drilling holes but it was not difficult and the bar attached easily at the time and there have been no issues since. I don't do a lot of "work" with it...just scraping a bit and moving horse manure to the garden. If I need to level, I just back drag with the heel. The bucket edge is protected if/when rocks get in the way.

Tractor Gal

 

[Joe.G]

I ordered the bar today, I am going to send them measurements of the holes in the bucket and they said they will set it up to fit.

 

[Joe.G]

I installed the bar and I must say it appears to be a well made piece. The bolt holes did not even come close to lining up but that is fine as the buck drilled very easy. I have not used it yet but it looks good and fit well.

 

[Tim Horton]

I had the standard, first generation version Piranha Tooth bar..
It was what was available at the time and I got it mostly to be sacrificial to not ware out the factory edge of the bucket.. It worked well for what little digging I did.. It worked well grubbing out brush and the like.. I used it to back drag glaze ice and compacted snow that was a significant problem..

If I had the need I would buy that version tooth bar again in a hot second..
My 5 cents of experience and opinion..

 

[85Hokie]

go with the O R I G I N A L one

 

[JeremyBX2200]

I had my BX2200 for a couple years before getting the original piranha toothbar. I am very happy with it. The pics are of a project I helped with. I took the sod off with the bucket. I had tried something similar prior to the toothbar and it was nearly impossible to.

 

[chim]

The reversible Piranha looks really interesting. My only experiences with "bars" have been with non-replaceable factory edges and a couple homebrews. I made a toothbar with replaceable teeth for a B7500 and a couple others for more recent tractors that were just a flat bar. The tooth bar worked very well for digging into dirt, but had to be removed when trying to scoop #4 ballast from a pile. The rocks kept getting stuck between the teeth and prevented scooping.

I did fab a DIY ratchet rake that cam in handy a few times. Since it was too small for the L4240 bucket I included it in the package when I sold the L3200.

The flat bars were simply a sacrificial edge. Except for a short auxiliary driveway here at home, all the snow removal is on blacktop. Area-wise the largest percentage is parking lots. Before having a real snow plow I used the FEL on blacktop for things that couldn't be handled with the rear blade. The last few years the L3200 was here I did have a rear blower. The loader still helped with snow removal.

 

[Downeaster]

I am leaning towards the regular Piranha bar, I use the bucket for different tasks and I also am trying to protect my bucket. The Pro bar I don't think I can justify the extra cost. What are your guys thoughts for all around use.
Does the Piranha improve digging? Hinder back blading ?

Thanks

Piranha® Tooth Bar - Official Site

www.bxpanded.com

BXpanded Piranha Pro Reversible Bolt-On Toothbar

www.bxpanded.com

BXpanded Piranha Straight Bar

www.bxpanded.com

 

[Downeaster]

The regular Piranha is great for digging. No need for the pro version. I liked my piranha bar so much i added the straight one to my arsenal. Both will put more material in your bucket. I use the straight one when I am working around the yard to move loam etc. when i'm in the back woods on my property I use the Piranha with the cutting teeth. Once you drill out the holes on the side of the bucket, you are ready to go with either bar. BXpanded will ask you if you have either of their bar installed, then they will build another to perfectly match.