How many customers does the treadle pedal cost Kubota?

Workerbee

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I sure agree about the brakes on the right. Somebody with two right legs must have engineered that one.
There’s only one way those brakes work, thats if you have your tractor on cruise control, which doesnt work for any sort of yard or loader work. Maybe for mowing a big field?
 

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The treadle pedal was concerning for me, as a first time buyer.

But I figured I would get used to it, and I have. It's just 2nd nature to me now. 2 pedals would now seem "strange" ;)

With my "Arctic Death Boots" on, I have a little harder time with it, but I would probably be hitting "both pedals" if there were 2, with those "big ass" boots on. (Its hard to walk in them actually, but they are warm on the ice (y))

If I were guessing, and I am......I would guess at 5-8% of people are "turned off " enough, to not buy a Kubota because of the "strange treadle pedal"


Edit: Now the brakes are an entirely different matter.....What a stupid design........That engineer and whomever approved it for production, should be tarred and feathered.......
 

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Some people will whine about anything. If you don’t like the treadle pedal setup, Kubota isn’t forcing you to buy their machine. Go buy a John Deere, then you can whine about all the problems that they have with their machines.
 
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I have quite a few hours on two MX6000s doing all manner of tasks, and don't have any problem with the pedal regardless of what I'm doing. The L60 tractors do have a nicer aluminum peddle and I've never heard or read any complaints about those variants.

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This is what I have, never had any issues with it. Since i have no experience with the two pedal system, it is hard to say if I would like that better or worse. Our other tractors are gear driven, so nothing to compare it to.
 

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Some people will whine about anything. If you don’t like the treadle pedal setup, Kubota isn’t forcing you to buy their machine. Go buy a John Deere, then you can whine about all the problems that they have with their machines.
No whining here, that's what I did and problem solved. Drive them all before you buy so you're sure a machine ergonomics is best for your needs and comfort. When I went to drive the LX I did not like the way the pedal felt or how it took up floorboard space so I just walked away before even starting it. Pedals Matter as all ankles are not created equal. Drink wine, don't whine.
 

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I thought that I could get used to the treadle pedal, but after three years, I just can't use it effectively. I'm older, a big man and I can't get use dto it. I did place a thick foam pad on the seat to raise my seat height and it helped. I would think that some smart guy with a machine could design something as a kit, think he'd do well to sell them.
I'd be first in line to buy one. I've had my B2650 for 9 years now and I love it, but the treadle is a huge pain in the derriere.
 
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No problem with the treadle. What I want is put the 2 brake pedals on the left moveing clutch to right so tghter turns could be made
That's been done on the L02 series. My 2502 has the brakes on the left...
 

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I got used to my treadle really quick and the only time I really dislike it is when backing up for long distances. Then I have to raise my leg and put my heel on the back portion of the treadle because pulling up with my toe for a long backup is not that comfortable. But the treadle wasn't a deal breaker for me. I knew I would get used to it.

I have operated a ton of different tractors over the years and I really like the two pedal setup that JD has but I don't like JD tractors, or at least the newer offerings. I would have paid more in a heartbeat if a two pedal system was an option on my 2502. I am glad they moved the brakes to the left on this model though.

But my nephew operates both the Kubota 3901 and the John Deere regularly and has come to his own conclusion that he doesn't want a Kubota with a treadle. Personally, I feel he's making a mistake choosing a new JD over a Kubota but I'm not gonna tell him that.
 

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The only real issue with the treadle is steping on it and the tractor lurching when you step onto the tractor.
 
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I think the same question can be asked of JD. I prefer the treadle over the twin and when I use our JD I find the pedals are too close together for my big feet.

And don't think Kubota hasn't asked themselves the same question. If they felt it would gain them incremental sales and there was a business case, then they would switch.
 

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I'd be first in line to buy one. I've had my B2650 for 9 years now and I love it, but the treadle is a huge pain in the derriere.
Amazing, all of these posts, people with larger tractors, younger people of different sizes and yet they still need to voice that their opinion matters more than anyone else, it works for me so everyone else don't know their butt from a hole in the ground.
 

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Well BAP I bought it and paid for it so I can whine about it,, so there,, lol. :)
My problem is with the way the 01 is set up my big foot gets hung up in the yoke of the peddles, if it was like the BX that would work. I guess, and this is an assumption on my part, when they design these things they do not figure, anybody over 5 foot 6 and over 120 pounds is going to be using them. And I am both
 
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I’m not the most experienced operator and way far from the most expert operator, but I’ve operated enough equipment with controls in such a wide variety of places and types it’s kind of hard to imagine a treadle or twin pedals being a deal breaker on buying a piece of equipment, but I guess it is for some percentage of buyers.

My L was my first experience with a treadle. Awkward at first. About 4 hours into the first grading job I did with it, I’d forgotten about the treadle interaction with my foot. The tractor was going the direction and speed I wanted like it was an extension of me. Couldn’t really expect better than that. (The loader took a little longer. 🙂)

Whatever clueless engineer and feckless approving manager put the treadle and brakes on the same side clearly never operated a small tractor. That’s a deal breaker for me. Brake steering is a necessary part of operating a small tractor if there’s any sort of incline involved, even if it’s just mowing a ditch. I vaguely recall seeing a couple models set up that way when I bought my L and commenting to the salesman that was one of the dumbest things I’d ever seen on a piece of equipment, particularly an alleged top tier piece of equipment. On mine, brakes are on left, treadle on right. If all Kubotas had brakes and treadle clustered together on one side, I wouldn’t have bought a Kubota.
I think it's pretty universal for the brake being on the right side on a tractor.

The brake pedal is next to the threadel pedal on my Massey as well. But it's a small single pedal.

The two pedal brake on the L2501 next to the threadel pedal really through me though. It's an unusable feature on the hydrostatic models without some crazy positioning in the seat.

My bet is it's a standard feature on the L models and universal for all transmission setups.

This way they don't have to rework the whole brake system for just the hydrostatics in the factory.
 
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Glad my L has the brakes on the left.
 

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hmm, wonder if you can put 'cruise control' on for going backwards ?
The cruise control in the MX is mechanical and when engaged it also moves the treadle peddle. Since the cruise control lever only moves in one direction, it makes sense that it can only move the peddle in one direction. Short version is no cruise control for reverse with the MX. The much fancier L60 tractors might have an electronic cruise control that works for F and R but someone else will have to chime in on that.
 
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I guess, and this is an assumption on my part, when they design these things they do not figure, anybody over 5 foot 6 and over 120 pounds is going to be using them. And I am both
I've had the same problem with motorcycles for years. The first thing I did with pretty much every bike I bought was to replace the handlebars, add spacers to the mounts to move them up and forward, put heavier springs in the front forks (and in some cases re-valve them completely) and heavier shocks with more pre-load on the back.
 
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How would you do that on a BX, given the position of the pedals, unless you're a contortionist? The more so as you have to put it in neutral if you want to get off...

The only real issue with the treadle is steping on it and the tractor lurching when you step onto the tractor.