What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours, are they reliable?

[tommott77]

What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Hey all,

Just joined up the other day and started a thread about considering purchasing a new 3350 at the dealer. The dealer brought up that it would need some special care and handling in its operation since it has a DPF. Come to find out on here afterwards how many issues a lot of people have had with them and exactly what all is involved in operating them to hopefully avoid any issues. At that point I figured it was time to move on and broaden my search.

Didn't take long for me to find a used B3200 that was posted to craigslist a couple days ago, not too far from me, like new, with with 49 hours! Went and looked at it today and it was as advertised. From the best I can tell the B3200 was the forerunner to the B3350 but without the DPF, or at least all the emissions issues.

He is asking $15900 for the tractor. The seller actually turns out to be a tractor buyer/seller/trader; he had quite the used tractor lot out in his back yard. He also offered to take my JD 1023 on trade for $11k which doesn't seem I'd be taking too much of a hit. Taking my JD out of the equation for sake of ease of discussion, whats a fair price for a used but like new B32000, w/ 49 hours, with a LA 504 loader, but no mower deck? Wish it had a quick attach bucket and I may need to find a MMM for it to as the jury is still out on the finish cut and efficiency of using my flail mower as my primary mower.

Also curious as to if anybody has an experience with the reliability on these B3200s. In searching around the normal websites I can't find much posted about their reliability, or lack thereof, which I assume may actually be a good thing. In order to justify plucking down this much money on a used tractor I have to feel fairly confident that I'm not going to spend thousands of dollars over the same warranty period as a new tractor.

Any input would be extremely appreciated.

 

[MattN03]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

FWIW, I bought my 2011 B3200 with LA504 & a BH76 last year with 78 hours on it from a guy off Craigslist. I paid $16,500. I've put a little over 100 hours on it since August 2016, and it's been great.

 

[tommott77]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

FWIW, I bought my 2011 B3200 with LA504 & a BH76 last year with 78 hours on it from a guy off Craigslist. I paid $16,500. I've put a little over 100 hours on it since August 2016, and it's been great.

Wow, that sounds like you stole it! Interested in selling,... j/k... but not really

There's a low hour, but well sun-baked B3200, with an aftermarket backhoe, for a good chunk of change more than the one I'm looking at somewhat close by to me as well.

I really want a backhoe, not an aftermarket 3 point hitch one though. My plan was to buy a tractor and then save up towards a BH76 or BH77. If I can find one along the price you paid though I'd jump all over it.

 

[MattN03]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Wow, that sounds like you stole it! Interested in selling,... j/k... but not really

There's a low hour, but well sun-baked B3200, with an aftermarket backhoe, for a good chunk of change more than the one I'm looking at somewhat close by to me as well.

I really want a backhoe, not an aftermarket 3 point hitch one though. My plan was to buy a tractor and then save up towards a BH76 or BH77. If I can find one along the price you paid though I'd jump all over it.

Yea, I drove over 4 hours one way to get this one lol. I was competing with a guy out of Georgia, and I got my money together faster . This one was like new, barely any paint off the loader or BH buckets, and kept under a carport so the paint & seat were in good shape. I felt fortunate to find this one.

 

[MadMax31]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Co-Worker has one, 325 hrs. The B3200 is what got me hooked on Orange. Its a hot-rod. 32hp in a B frame, and a Hi Range that make it fly if you so choose.

 

[beckmurph]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Look at Tractorhouse to get an idea of price.
My Ex B3200tlb was a great tractor. I think it had over 200hrs on it when I sold it. It never had a problem. Though the backhoe did have a boom cylinder replaced on it early on.


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[tommott77]

Thanks all.

Yes, I've tinkered with all sorts of vintage European sports cars over the years and dare I say that tractor was....fast! I guess the older I get I'm finding that tractors are starting to fill the mechanical void in my life, while being cheaper (though its getting more expensive every year) and actually have some utility by getting some work done in the process. But back to the subject, when I went in reverse the first time in high gear it almost scared me, especially compared to the B2601 I drove at the dealer which seemed to just plod along, then crawl along in reverse. I guess if I'm looking for a high PTO HP tractor while being light enough to not tear up my yard a by-product is going to a 'fast' tractor, oh well. I could only image on fast that thing may be able to get through my small lawn in 'high' w/ a hanging belly motor....if I felt brave enough.

My biggest complaint with the tractor was the brake location. The B2601 had the brake on the left side of the platform. The B 3200 had the dual brakes over the hydro pedal. In my recent trip up to the mountain property with the the JD1023 on steep terrain I found the safest means of operation was I to keep one foot on the hydro while keeping the other on the brake on steep terrain in the name of safety as on steep enough spots the 1023 would roll down on its own. Not sure how I'd be able to handle that situation with the brake on the B3200. Wish I could move the pedal to the other side. Also a little bummed that it didn't have a quick attach bucket to easily swap forks on/off. Lastly was hoping to upgrade to a PTO height control that keeps its height level as opposed to the just up/down motion that it appeared to have like my 1023 and previous tractors...I'm starting to get a bit nit picky at this point though, really liked the tractor otherwise.

I've been searching all around the east coast on Craigslist and just checked out tractorhouse. I'd say that this particular may be slightly on the higher end of the price spectrum, even considering its low hours/condition. His asking price seems to be close to around the price for a, nice, higher hour machine, with both a loader and a belly mower. Still trying to figure out I'll need a MMM or if I'll maybe be able make do at your yard with my cheap flail mower. He seems like all he may do is buy and sell tractors so there may likely be a good bit of negotiating room.

 

[MattN03]

Did you have it in high range? I never use H unless I'm traveling on blacktop. Most of the work is done in L or M. L has great hold back and M has never been a problem either. I agree, I wish the b3200 had a return height***8203; for the 3PT. I also wish it didn't rattle as much as you get closer to PTO RPM. I've noticed the rattle seems to be coming from the loader attachment pins. I think some fuel lines slipped over the pin handles would quiet it down.

 

[tommott77]

Did you have it in high range? I never use H unless I'm traveling on blacktop. Most of the work is done in L or M. L has great hold back and M has never been a problem either. I agree, I wish the b3200 had a return height***8203; for the 3PT. I also wish it didn't rattle as much as you get closer to PTO RPM. I've noticed the rattle seems to be coming from the loader attachment pins. I think some fuel lines slipped over the pin handles would quiet it down.

Yeah, with the 1023 its just 'high' and 'low'. Used to using 'high' most of the time on the 1023 and so that's were where I started with the B3200. Never really got it much over 2k rpms driving it around but it was still 'scary' fast in 'high'. I did work my way through 'M' and 'L'. I think I really only revved it up to PTO RPMs for a bit while stationary so never really got much of a feel for any vibrations.

If you're working on level terrain you may not use it much, but how have you managed your use of the brake? I'm somewhat at a loss as to how to use a split brake system with one foot both using two (if not three including reverse) pedals at one time. I'd also have to get used to having a clutch too. I guess that's really only used to shift transmission speeds.

 

[beckmurph]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Well, have you looked at a B2650?
Same size as the 3350 or 3200. 6-7 hp less, but no emissions add on.
Loader/backhoe are the same, and I believe the mmm is the same.
Tph has position control. Split brakes on left side. Tilt steering wheel, and if you don't purchase the backhoe, you get a nice adjustable suspension seat.


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[MattN03]

I rarely use the brakes as the hydrostatic tranny has plenty of hold back/braking in L & M. The split pedal is useless because you'd have to push on the forward pedal and brake pedal at the same time, unless it could be used with the speed control set (scary??!!). I come to a stop to shift gears and unless the tranny has some load on it, I can shift between ranges without using the clutch***8203;.

 

[tommott77]

I rarely use the brakes as the hydrostatic tranny has plenty of hold back/braking in L & M. The split pedal is useless because you'd have to push on the forward pedal and brake pedal at the same time, unless it could be used with the speed control set (scary??!!). I come to a stop to shift gears and unless the tranny has some load on it, I can shift between ranges without using the clutch***8203;.

Thanks for that. I wish there was a slope I could test the hold back on. The guy's yard is as flat as can be, as just about everything in the eastern Carolinas. Just the driveway on the mountain property is around a 10-17% grade in most spots. I'd like to know that the hold back in at least 'low' could handle that much grade without having a steady foot on the brake, which may not be possible...the 1023's couldn't.

 

[tommott77]

Re: What's a fair price on like new B3200 w/ 49 hours....are they reliable?

Well, have you looked at a B2650?
Same size as the 3350 or 3200. 6-7 hp less, but no emissions add on.
Loader/backhoe are the same, and I believe the mmm is the same.
Tph has position control. Split brakes on left side. Tilt steering wheel, and if you don't purchase the backhoe, you get a nice adjustable suspension seat.


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If I went new that's the route I'd definitely go as opposed to the 3350. Was really hoping to get at least 20+ pto hp though to run chippers, shredders, heavier duty flail mower. I did prefer the hydro pedal setup of the 3320 as possessed to the new 2601 I drove at the dealer, I assume that 3350 would be the same setup as the 2601. The forward and reverse of the 3200 has more of typical down/up pedal-like action, as opposed to a more tilt forward and then reverse feel on the 2601.