Source for JIC Tees?

[Soopitup]

Looking for some Tees for my BX23S so I can check pressures at different spots in the system. I intend to leave them in so I can check/monitor any time I need.

I'd rather use the JIC connectors for the 2 inline ends, no adapters, they'll take up more space.
Top tee isn't as important, I'll be using a quick connect there.

I haven't had any luck finding anything? I tried summit and amazon and did a web search.

Any of you hydraulic experts have any suggestions?

 

[MOOTS]

2603 | JIC 37° Tube Union Tee

Order 2603 fittings online today and have your equipment back in business faster. Large selection of JIC and Pipe adapters.

www.discounthydraulichose.com

Here ya go.

 

[Soopitup]

I need one male and one female end on the straight portion.

That page is all male Tees. I didn't look through the rest of the site yet.

 

[lugbolt]

JIC and AN are the same, except AN is aluminum. They can be used in a pinch.

 

[John T]

JIC and AN are the same, except AN is aluminum. They can be used in a pinch.

That is NOT correct.

Technically, JIC/AN IS interchangeable..... But they are not the same.

JIC has relaxed thread tolerances ... they are also cheaper $$

AN is more $$ tighter thread tolerances

one more thing.... AN fitting can be found in aluminum/Brass/stainless ..... probably steel also.

 

[John T]

BTW,

AN = Army/Navy

 

[Russell King]

I need one male and one female end on the straight portion.

That page is all male Tees. I didn't look through the rest of the site yet.

Here is the female tee page

6606 | Female JIC 37° Swivel Tee

Our High Quality Steel 6606 fittings are ideal for your next hydraulic hose project. Choose Discount Hydraulic Hose for fast service, and great prices!

www.discounthydraulichose.com

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I think your being a bit foolish for wanting or needing to check pressure at mutiple points, but here you are.

Hose and Fittings.com

 

[Soopitup]

Thanks guys
This is what I need here.
So it fits inline with no adapters.

6602-04-04-04 | 1/4" JIC Female Swivel Run Tee

Check out the deal on 6602-04-04-04 | 1/4" JIC Female Swivel Run Tee at DiscountHydraulicHose.com

www.discounthydraulichose.com

That is NOT correct.

Technically, JIC/AN IS interchangeable..... But they are not the same.

JIC has relaxed thread tolerances ... they are also cheaper $$

AN is more $$ tighter thread tolerances

one more thing.... AN fitting can be found in aluminum/Brass/stainless ..... probably steel also.

You can definitely get them in steel too.
I have a bunch of aluminum ones in my box.
JIS female ends are shorter (the nut isn't as long), and they're cheaper.
Going with JIS.96

 

[Soopitup]

I think your being a bit foolish for wanting or needing to check pressure at mutiple points, but here you are.

Hose and Fittings.com

Thanks! Those look to be better quality.

It's not that much.
Less than $100 in parts.
Maybe an hours worth of work.
It will let me see what the system is doing exactly.

 

[TheOldHokie]

JIC and AN are the same, except AN is aluminum. They can be used in a pinch.

AN is a now obsolete military and aerospace specification and has nothing to do with material. It is the same as JIC with UNR thread form and a class 3A/3B thread fit.

The aluminum AN fittings are JIC fittings made for the Rodger Roadracer automotive market. Not meant for industrial hydraulics.

Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

Thanks guys
This is what I need here.
So it fits inline with no adapters.

6602-04-04-04 | 1/4" JIC Female Swivel Run Tee

Check out the deal on 6602-04-04-04 | 1/4" JIC Female Swivel Run Tee at DiscountHydraulicHose.com

www.discounthydraulichose.com

You can definitely get them in steel too.
I have a bunch of aluminum ones in my box.
JIS female ends are shorter (the nut isn't as long), and they're cheaper.
Going with JIS.96

JIS and JIC are entirely different.

JIS uses BSP threads and sizes.

JIC uses UNF threads and sizes.

THEY DO NOT INTERCHANGE.

You do not need multiple permanent test points but go ahead and Soopitup. Try not to break anything in the process by using the wrong parts.

Dan

 

[TheOldHokie]

I need one male and one female end on the straight portion.

That page is all male Tees. I didn't look through the rest of the site yet.

DHH is right up the road from me and orders usually arrive next day. I do over $1k in business with them each year bit they're not the best price in town.

These guys are often much cheaper. for things like your JIC tees or BSPP and metric fittings.

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If you teally want to Soopitup like a hydraulic pro you should be looking at these.

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Dan

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Instead of a 'cap' at every 'test' port of every Tee, install a digital pressure sensor, then feed them all to a central computer that can display actual realtime pressure readings on a large LCD. You can create a graphic similar to cars with 'door ajar' screens. Bonus points if you then Wi-Fi the data to your cellphone.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Instead of a 'cap' at every 'test' port of every Tee, install a digital pressure sensor, then feed them all to a central computer that can display actual realtime pressure readings on a large LCD. You can create a graphic similar to cars with 'door ajar' screens. Bonus points if you then Wi-Fi the data to your cellphone.

Might want to include electric flow control valves at each test point to simulate loads and an on-screen Help file so you know what the pressure readings actually mean.

About 20 years ago when I was much younger and still fond of souping things up I put this pump inlet pressure test point on my B7200. In the ensuing years I have used it 2 maybe 3 times.

I have learned that in the case of JIC connections like that it is just as easy and a whole lot cheaper and more functional to have one or two tees with a hose and a flow control valve in the test gauge storage case.

Dan

 

[Soopitup]

AN is a now obsolete military and aerospace specification and has nothing to do with material. It is the same as JIC with UNR thread form and a class 3A/3B thread fit.

The aluminum AN fittings are JIC fittings made for the Rodger Roadracer automotive market. Not meant for industrial hydraulics.

Dan

Those aluminum fittings serve a purpose on cars.
They can be a functional quick easy way to adapt different threads, or make fuel lines when you can't find off the shelf stuff.
Just like spoilers they get overused and abused.

JIS and JIC are entirely different.

JIS uses BSP threads and sizes.

JIC uses UNF threads and sizes.

THEY DO NOT INTERCHANGE.

You do not need multiple permanent test points but go ahead and Soopitup. Try not to break anything in the process by using the wrong parts.

Dan

I thought JIS was metric thread?
And BSP was standard thread?

My tractor comes with JIC, correct?

I understand the test points aren't necessary, they're mainly for my curiosity.
I like to see and understand how the system is operating normally. Helps when it doesn't work right.

I know better than to force things.

I appreciate the links. Thank you.

Instead of a 'cap' at every 'test' port of every Tee, install a digital pressure sensor, then feed them all to a central computer that can display actual realtime pressure readings on a large LCD. You can create a graphic similar to cars with 'door ajar' screens. Bonus points if you then Wi-Fi the data to your cellphone.

Actually a fantastic idea.
Just more time and a lot more money than I want to put towards it.

Might want to include electric flow control valves at each test point to simulate loads and an on-screen Help file so you know what the pressure readings actually mean.

About 20 years ago when I was much younger and still fond of souping things up I put this pump inlet pressure test point on my B7200. In the ensuing years I have used it 2 maybe 3 times.

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I have learned that in the case of JIC connections like that it is just as easy and a whole lot cheaper and more functional to have one or two tees with a hose and a flow control valve in the test gauge storage case.

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Dan

I'm still (relatively) young and dumb.
The tees are relatively cheap. I can leave them in and when I need them they're there.
Things have a way of breaking when it's most inconvenient.
I'd rather spend the short time now to install them. One less hassle if I ever need them.
And installing them now helps to ensure I won't need them later.

 

[MOOTS]

My tractor comes with JIC, correct?

Yes. With some ORFS, NPT and ORB mixed in for good confusion.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Those aluminum fittings serve a purpose on cars.
They can be a functional quick easy way to adapt different threads, or make fuel lines when you can't find off the shelf stuff.
Just like spoilers they get overused and abused.



I thought JIS was metric thread?
And BSP was standard thread?

My tractor comes with JIC, correct?

I understand the test points aren't necessary, they're mainly for my curiosity.
I like to see and understand how the system is operating normally. Helps when it doesn't work right.

I know better than to force things.

I appreciate the links. Thank you.



Actually a fantastic idea.
Just more time and a lot more money than I want to put towards it.




I'm still (relatively) young and dumb.
The tees are relatively cheap. I can leave them in and when I need them they're there.
Things have a way of breaking when it's most inconvenient.
I'd rather spend the short time now to install them. One less hassle if I ever need them.
And installing them now helps to ensure I won't need them later.

The pretty aluminum AN fittings are fine on automotive brake, fuel, oil, steering systems. I have a few on my cars, trucks and even a tractor or two but never on tractor hydraulics

JIS is a 37 degree flare fitting with BSP threads. BSP is British Standard Pipe which is pretty standard in Europe and Asia. The dimensions are imperial but not the same as US pipe. BSP also uses a Whitworth thread form with 55 degree flank angle. Metric and UN threads have a 60 degree flank angle. Never the two mix.

Your tractor will have BSPP, BSPT NPT, NPSF, JIC, and SAE fittings and ports depending on where you look. Look and be sure you know what you are dealing with before you leap.

Pressure testing is an excellent educational experience but only if you first understand the basic principles of open circuit operation and can interest the results. From our brief discussions I think you are a little lacking there. You get that understanding by reading reliable reference matetial
and asking questions of reliable experts. Best done before you leap and make an expensive mistake.

So here is my question for you. Where are your planned test points and what do you expect to learn with a pressure gauge teed into those points?

Dan

 

[Russell King]

JIS = Japanese Industrial Standards covering a wide breadth of products
Fittings use inch threads but based in British threads

Japanese Industrial Standards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

JIC = Joint Industrial Council
Based in inches in American threads

This try’s to make it more clear and has a ton of information

Fitting Thread Chart | Hydraulics Direct

Fluid Port and Connector Identification Guide Quick Links Abbreviations Introduction Fluid port and connector identification tools American Connections National Pipe Tapered Fuel NPTF National Pipe straight mechanical NSPM JIC 37° Flare SAE J514 SAE 45° Flare SAE J512 SAE Straight Thread

www.hydraulicsdirect.com

 

[Soopitup]

I do appreciate the warnings.
You don't know what I know, and I don't (always) know what I don't know.

I am aware there are different types of fittings on the tractor.
I'm specifically going to tee into the JIC connections on the lines. Looking quickly it seemed to be the simplest, least invasive, moving the lines locations option.

I am good with not forcing things. I'm not worried about mating the wrong threads. Worst case I'll have some more spare fittings floating around.

After looking quickly online, there's apparently metric JIS thread and BSP JIS thread.
I didn't know there were both.

Definitely more I need to learn about tractor hydraulics, waiting til I'm at that point to expend the mental energy on it.
I'm not done with the previous discussion, just had to temporarily shelve it.