L1500 not wanting to start/slow to start

matt comer

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L1500
Apr 22, 2011
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bells, tn
Hey guys, wounding if any has had any problems with your “grey market” tractors starting, on cooler days(60 deg) and below my L1500 acts very funny, I have put a new battery and cables on the tractor and it still acts like it has a weak battery, on warm days it starts up with no prob!! I had the alternator checked out at a local starter/alternator shop and they told me that it was in great cond, I even checked it myself just like Vic had said in 1 of his videos and im getting 12+ amps on my battery post, i am useing my glow plugs and the indacatior is glowing red when i turn the switch to the left,i give it 30-45 sec to make sure that im not cold starting the engine, I can jump it off with my truck but thats getting old real fast!!! im kinda new to the whole grey market tractors thing and would like to keep this thing in prime shape, ANY info would be greatly appreciated !!!:confused::confused::confused:
 

B7100

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B7100,B7100 with Backhoe and FEL, Goldoni Quad 20
Feb 11, 2010
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Wales
Before we get into anything deeper,have you you got nice fresh oil of the correct viscosity in you tractor and does it start ok in the cold with a jump from your truck?
dave
 
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matt comer

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L1500
Apr 22, 2011
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bells, tn
i do have the correct viscosity but its due for a oil change, not really i have to try 2 or 3 times to start it in the cooler weather but once it starts it runs better then my dads BX!!!!
 

B7100

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B7100,B7100 with Backhoe and FEL, Goldoni Quad 20
Feb 11, 2010
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Has the slow turning over been gradually getting worse or suddenly happen?
Dave
 

matt comer

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L1500
Apr 22, 2011
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bells, tn
gradually getting worse, i put a 850cca battery on it thinking that might solve the prob, it did help some but still slow to start, its almost like something is pulling the battery down, lights are bright as can be running or not.
 

matt comer

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L1500
Apr 22, 2011
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bells, tn
ok so i jumped it off (again) and did some checking with my meter, still the same, 12+ amps off my battery, i was pushed for time (church) so i shut it down and came back about 9pm to check it again, IT STARTED RIGHT UP!!!! turned over twice and fired right up, so im thinking i may have a wiring prob. any thoughts?
 

mkc1962

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2012 L3200
May 17, 2011
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Valley Grande, Alabama
First, the fact that is a gray market has nothing at all to do with the problem. It could be pure orange, red or blue and still be doing the same thing. As Ive known for over 12 years, and this forum has alot to do with, Gray market tractors are nothing more than a title/stigma.

2nd, are you checking the VOLTAGE that the battery is holding and the VOLTAGE that the Alternator is putting out, or are you doing an amperage load test of the electrical draw of your starter? I am guessing you are probably doing voltage checks and just have the verbage a bit off.


On a good battery, sitting with no electrical load, you should expect to see between 12.4- 13.2 VOLTS DC. A good charging alternator will put out in the 13.2- 14.5 VOLTS DC. Alternator test can be done either on wire coming out of Alternator on on the actual battery post.

When you preheat your plugs you are putting one hell of an AMPERAGE draw on the battery, and this is normal. Even though a regular car battery will handle this just fine for quite some time, in time as a battery gets older the preheat draw will cause a battery to maybe not have enough strong turn over power after a preheat cycle. Deep cycle batteries, Tractor batteries or the like are more suited for all for this. But I am not trying to stray you away from a car Batt if that is what you have. Its what i use. But I do know how it will start to act over time.

IF, you have proven that the Battery is good, and the alternator is good, I would tend to look next at the fact that maybe the starter is pulling much more amperage than it should be. I have never been inside a Kubota starter, But many import starters have a set of contacts, that when start to go bad will act exaclty as you as discussing. IF the Kubota starter falls into such a category, it is possible you may be able to just replace its internal contacts.

This is a source I commonly use for replacing import contacts. And yes they even have a nice write up on how to do this job.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/index.html

I hope this maybe points you in the right direction.

Mike in Alabama.
 

hodge

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A dragging starter can cause the same problems. You might want to pull it and have it checked.