Hydraulic Pump

Stone1bear

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I changed my hydraulic pump on my BX2360 today because it finally gave out, tractor barely moved. Installed new pump now I got nothing working. No hydraulics, is there a special way to bleed air out of the system?


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ShaunBlake

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Hey, S1B, welcome to the OTT family! (Is that Sulphur anywhere near Lake Charles, where I grew up, or someplace like to "hell and brimstone"? :D )

I don't know about the BX, and have only a tiny understanding of hydraulics. So my comments are intended to keep you moving forward until the gurus can chime in.

Hydraulic systems (closed ones) are generally self-purging, but can easily get locked, much like fuel systems that get vapor-locked. So when my loader, for example, gets air in the system, if I raise and lower it a few times, it works the air bubble back into the reservoir, and filling the system with fluid.

So: what steps did you take to prevent air entering the system? (I expect, since you replaced the pump, plugging all the lines wasn't possible.) If you know that air is going to enter your system, then making allowances for it to exit will help to get the system functional after it's been serviced (after the repair is complete and you're ready to button it up).

Look at your system and find a place above the pump where you can vent it. With the system closed and filled to capacity (NOT OVERFILLED!!!), open the system and purge the air.

This might be a plug; it might be a hose or fitting. With the pump running (on your BX, prolly means the engine is running and the hydro motor running), open (like, unscrew a fitting or hose coupling) and let it pump out the air -- which may be some hydraulic fluid before the air comes out -- until hydro fluid comes in a steady stream/flow/gush. Close the opening, shut down the pump, and refill the reservoir. Then try the hydraulics.

If the symptoms are the same (nothing works! <sob>) then try the steps one more time before punting.

If your system works now but doesn't work properly, try exercising it to work the air out. (Exercising meaning extend and retract the hydraulic components to move the air through the system and back to the reservoir.)

Best wishes, and good luck getting the attention of the gurus to get you on the right path! Please keep us posted on your progress!
 

lugbolt

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what was wrong with the old pump? Was it disassembled and inspected?

Seems like here was a suction screen down on the left side rear bottom of the transmission, kind of behind the L.R. wheel. The service manual shows it. May be plugged, which would explain no hydraulics. Reminds me of the neighbor guy who replaced his pump as well. Nothing worked afterward. I ended up with it, cleaned the screen and replaced the HST filter on the front and it was good as new. $100 worth of parts and oil, and a misdiagnosed failed hydraulic pump. He now has a spare pump.
 

Stone1bear

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The second week after purchasing the tractor new in 08 or 09 the pressure line blew out will I was running it and I ran it out of oil before I new what was happening. I took it back and they replace the line but that was all, so it finally quit pumping, it would barely move. I have clean the screen and watched fluid levels.


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lugbolt

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when you removed the screen for cleaning, how dirty was it? Was there any aluminum, steel, or brass shavings on it? Typically if there was a big problem inside the transaxle, you'd see a LOT of shavings stuck to the screen.

If it will barely move and hydraulic functions are weak, there is likely more than one issue. At this point, it would be good to dig out the service manual and have a look at the hydraulic diagrams.
 

Tx Jim

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Try CAREFULLY blowing compressed air in "short bursts" into dipstick hole so as to force oil into new hyd pump. Once pump picks up oil one can cycle hyd functions to bleed any air out of system.