Found off-road diesel

[johnjk]

Time to fill up

 

[jimh406]

It's pretty common around here, but I live in a rural area.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

curious, how much do you save ?

 

[McMXi]

It's pretty common around here, but I live in a rural area.

Common here too. It's sold at the gas station a couple of miles from my house and all over the valley.

 

[jimh406]

curious, how much do you save ?

In Montana, $.54 per gallon no matter what the diesel price goes up to or down to.

 

[John T]

I run Home Heating oil

currently $2.83 a gallon delivered.

 

[WFM]

My nephew and lots of other younger folks with diesel pickups run the off road diesel here about $1. A gallon cheaper.

 

[McMXi]

In Montana, $.54 per gallon no matter what the diesel price goes up to or down to.

So given that the fine is $500 for the first offense for running off-road diesel on the road, you'd need to get away with running around a 100 gallons to break even. Make it to 1,000 gallons and you're doing well.

 

[jyoutz]

So given that the fine is $500 for the first offense for running off-road diesel on the road, you'd need to get away with running around a 100 gallons to break even. Make it to 1,000 gallons and you're doing well.

Not to mention a red dyed fuel system in the truck.

 

[PHPaul]

I run Home Heating oil

currently $2.83 a gallon delivered.

Yup, me too. Every Fall I have them top off the tank for the furnace in the shop and the tank for the tractor. That and a healthy dose of Power Service in the tractor fuel and I'm good for a year.

Both 275 gallon tanks, actual fill is about 250 gallons.

 

[D2Cat]

Here's an idea of cost when caught using off road on highways.

The IRS imposes a federal penalty under 26 U.S. Code Section 6715, which is the greater of $1,000 or $10 for each gallon of dyed fuel found in the supply tank of a highway vehicle. For example, if a vehicle contains 50 gallons of dyed diesel, the federal fine would be $1,000, as it is greater than $500 ($10 x 50 gallons). Subsequent violations can lead to increased penalties, with the base amount of $1,000 multiplying with each additional offense. State authorities also impose their own separate fines and penalties, which can vary significantly and are in addition to federal assessments. These state-level penalties can range from hundreds to thousands of dollars per violation, often increasing for repeat offenses. Beyond monetary fines, other serious consequences may include the impoundment or seizure of the vehicle involved.

 

[jimh406]

From what I understand, the dye is designed to be almost impossible to get out of the fuel system. I have no idea who's checking for it.

 

[skeets]

My nephew and lots of other younger folks with diesel pickups run the off road diesel here about $1. A gallon cheaper.

Yeah thats all fun and games until they get stopped and they dip the tanks,, then it gets expensive

 

[johnjk]

curious, how much do you save ?

Saved around $.95/gal. Out by me it was 3.95/gal. $3.00 for off-road. Tank holds 50 gal so that is $50 on a fill

 

[johnjk]

Interesting thing is the nozzle for off-road is a larger diameter than the taxed diesel. Do diesel pickups have the same restricted opening that a gas vehicle has? Now comes the fun. We had company when I got home so the tank is still in my truck. Time to warm up the orange and move it

 

[McMXi]

Interesting thing is the nozzle for off-road is a larger diameter than the taxed diesel. Do diesel pickups have the same restricted opening that a gas vehicle has? Now comes the fun. We had company when I got home so the tank is still in my truck. Time to warm up the orange and move it

I've never found a diesel nozzle that won't fit in the fuel filler necks of my '02 F-250 and '24 F-450. Up here the nozzles are the same size for off-road and on-road diesel. Some fuel stations that see a lot of commercial vehicles have the larger nozzles and a higher flow rate, but they work just fine.

Someone needs to invent an adapter that prevents foaming of the diesel fuel. If I want to get a full tank I have to wait for the foam to settle which makes refueling a longer process than it should be.

 

[D2Cat]

I've seen troopers dipping fuel at farm sale barn. Don't know if they work off of a tip or just decide today is the day. Probably know that is the place for a lot of trucks and most farmers have access to both fuels.

 

[chim]

I've seen troopers dipping fuel at farm sale barn. Don't know if they work off of a tip or just decide today is the day. Probably know that is the place for a lot of trucks and most farmers have access to both fuels.

Sounds like unreasonable search to me.

 

[armylifer]

My understanding is that vehicles used for farming are exempt from road use taxes. Some states even have special license plates to identify farm trucks. Also, if you are using on-road (taxed) diesel in a farm truck you can deduct the taxed portion of the fuel you use on your federal income taxes. Some states also allow this exemption for state income taxes.