Chose the L3901

39Kubbie

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I took delivery of a new L3901 HST today, with 5' medium duty cutter (RCR1860), 5' box blade (BB1260), and quick hitch (QH10). I went with R4 tires, and will be getting SSQA to swap for the pin-on bucket as soon as available. I plan to get some rear ballast and would like to add some pallet forks soon. Longer term wish list includes adding another loader valve and grapple. I put about 3.5 hours on it this afternoon doing some much needed bush hogging, and it performed amazingly well. I'm a first time tractor buyer and still new to this machine, but what a fantastic tool! I've read enough posts to know that newbies are supposed to post pics, but I'll have to take an IOU on that.

I took in a lot of great advice over the past several weeks as a guest to this forum, browsing many of the past 'which model should I buy?' threads. I decided that as a new owner, I should jump on board as a member to share my experiences and continue to learn from you all - this is a great community.

I'll share some of the factors that led me to choose the L3901 over an L2501 or L3301. I hope this post might be helpful to someone else facing a similar decision.

I was very interested in the L2501 because it's a great value in my opinion - L series frame/weight with HP low enough to not need DPF while still offering decent power, as well as good torque and traction. I like the L2501 a lot, and it probably would've been a good tractor for me and likely would've met many of my needs. But, ultimately I decided to go with an l3901 instead, and here are the main reasons:

One of my uses is bush hogging, sometimes thick/tall grass and woody growth, with some slopes. I wanted a 5' cutter because of the L's frame size, and although I read posts from several people who have had good experiences running a 5' cutter on the L2501, I was concerned that the combination of thick undergrowth and hills might lead to underpowered situations. On top of that, I liked the larger gear box and heavier gauge steel of the medium duty rotary cutter. I could've lived with a light duty cutter if I'd gone with the L2501, but jumping up to a 3301 or 3901 gave me the opportunity to get the heavier cutter without concern of being PTO HP-limited.

Although the L2501 is a good value, any new tractor was going to be a big investment for me. It takes such a chunk of money to get into this game at all, so even though the L3301 and L3901 were more $$, I decided I'd rather spend roughly 15% more for an L3301, or an additional 10% above the 3301 for an L3901, than buy a tractor that I wasn't completely sure would meet my PTO HP needs. The idea of spending thousands and then finding that I didn't have a machine that did all I wanted was a risk I didn't want to take. My needs were near the top of the L2501's capabilities, and I'd rather spend a bit more to ensure I had enough PTO HP.

I'm not a fan of Tier 4 and DPF, but they don't scare me either. I liked the simplicity and lower maintenance costs of no DPF and hoped to find that the L2501 would meet my needs. But after doing my homework, i don't think it would have. There don't appear to be issues with DPF so far on the L series, and they've been out long enough that if there was going to be a B3350-type issue with them, we'd know it by now. There is still a risk that problems could crop up, or that the DPFs won't meet their estimated 3000 hour life, but for me that risk was smaller than the risk of finding that the L2501 didn't meet my PTO HP needs. I think over time DPF will become the new normal and we'll chuckle at the 'old days' and struggle to remember what all the fuss was about with Tier 4 and DPF. Not that there won't be issues here and there along the way as the technology matures -- some of those issues being significant, like the B3350 -- but I don't think Tier 4 will present a problem for most tractors. People took a while to warm up to automatic, driverless building elevators too, but they turned out to be OK :)

Since the L2501 was close to meeting my needs, you might wonder why I didn't go with the L3301. That's a valid question, and perhaps I should have and saved some money. But for me, once I crossed the threshold into the DPF-equipped machines, I decided why not go ahead and get the L3901. Hopefully this first tractor is the last tractor purchase I'll make, so I decided to go for the 3901. I'm sure I would have been happy with the 3301 too, but after a few hours on it I love the 3901. And I don't anticipate ever asking myself "What if I had a few less HP?"

If you're in the market for one of the small L series, I hope this post has helped you think of some of the factors to consider. I don't think you can really go wrong with any of these L series tractors as long as you carefully consider your unique needs and match them up with the models. For example, if you have lighter duty PTO applications or plan to mainly do loader work, the L2501 would be a great machine at a good price in my opinion.
 

BAP

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Congratulations on your new tractor. Sounds like you did a great job of researching your options. Your reasoning for going with the larger tractor are valid, and in the long run I believe you will be much happier.
 

39Kubbie

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L3901, RCR1860, BB1260, QH10
Oct 27, 2017
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Thanks guys!

Yes, I shopped around and found the price of the 3901 to consistently be around 25% more than the 2501.

I thought about a 6' cutter but stuck with 5' for better access through some trees I have.

teg - Your L2800 would probably be about perfect for my application. I believe you have about 4-5 more HP at the PTO than the L2501 -- closer to the 3301's performance than the 2501's. I wish the manufacturers could produce the same tractor today without DPF, but it is what it is.

I'm reminded of a couple other things to share:

I wanted HST, which isn't a huge hit on HP, but with the 2501 already being on the edge of my needs, it was another factor in my decision.

Also, I started out looking at used machines. I found that anything 4WD with a loader, even old rough stuff, had held its value really well. I thought about getting a low hour machine built before Tier 4, but the price difference compared to new just wasn't much. Packaging implements with discounts, getting a full warranty, and taking advantage of financing incentives are what led me to buy new instead.
 

D2Cat

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Well, if you'd have purchased anything else you couldn't be "39Kubbie"!:D

Welcome, nice review. What direction do you live from the big city? Who did you purchase your tractor from?

The forum has a place to list your location so others can interact with local problems or activities. Maybe the area group can have a Spring Fling and have a project somewhere!
 

mdhughes

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Congratulations on getting your Kubota. Like teg said, really nice write-up, I'm sure they will be others reading it and using your notes to help them decide on what tractor to get. I think you will be very happy with the L3901, I have a L3901DT and has done everything I have asked it to do and then some.

The best thing I have gotten for the tractor is a set of pallet forks. I have done way more than I thought I would have ever done with them. I'm building a garage and have moved lumber, 4'x8' plywood, 4'x9' oriented strandboard and set trusses using a boom=pole made to slip over the forks.

I'm ave 2.4 hours per gallon with my L3901 over 15 fill ups. I would like to know what you get with yours. I have a transfer tank with a pump and meter, so it is pretty easy for me to keep track. I have a little over 240 hours on the tractor.

I'm getting around 15 hours between regens, I know people that use tractors with DPF that brush hog a lot get more hours between regens. Would like to know how often yours regens.
 

Yooper

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Congratulations on your new tractor. Very happy with mine and getting close to 200 hours. So far, the regens have not been an issue with this model. Mine regens between 16 to 28 hours with the average being around 18. You will not regret going with the ssqa. Along with the forks, the grapple is right up there for must have attachments.

Interesting note on the fuel consumption. Never checked mine, but I know its not a thirsty engine.
 

puterfeller

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39Kubbie: I'm looking for my first tractor, something between 28 and 44hp, and I believe I've settled on Kubota.

Did you consider buying used, and if so, was there a reason you didn't?
Since I'll be primarily mowing mostly flat pasture, I'm curious to know if you've had any traction issues with the R4s.
Were you required to purchase the Kubota insurance?

Thanks,
Puterfeller
 

39Kubbie

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Puterfeller - Good luck with your decision. There are so many options out there that it can become a challenge figuring out which we to go, but it's a fun challenge! I didn't have any experience with or brand loyalty to Kubota, and like you I gravitated toward their products as I did my research. I hope it turns out to be a good decision in the long run, so far I'm very happy with it. Incidentally, I've had a couple lawn tractors built in the 90s by a competitor. I've liked them so much that when I began looking at tractors I started there. But, I saw that a lot has changed with manufacturing since the 90s. The competitors make good equipment too, but I obviously wound up choosing Kubota after looking at green, blue, two kinds of red, and a different shade of orange.

Used:

I started out looking at used machines. I found that anything 4WD with a loader, even old rough stuff, had held its value really well. I thought about getting a low hour machine built before Tier 4, but the price difference compared to new just wasn't much. Packaging implements with discounts, getting a full warranty, and taking advantage of financing incentives are what led me to buy new instead.

Another factor was the unknown of how a used machine had been treated. I was OK with that risk given service records, a thorough inspection etc, and if I could buy at what I felt was the right price. What I found was that used prices didn't give me any cushion for dealing with potential issues that I might overlook in a pre-buy inspection. I've had some very good experiences buying used (sometimes VERY used!) lawn equipment, cars, etc. My mower is a 25 year old garden tractor that I bought 4 years ago, and it's a tank, has been great, easy to work on etc. But, I've also been burned a couple times, so I was mindful that if I bought something out of warranty I needed a little reserve to handle any maintenance surprises. I couldn't find that price point with anything I was interested in buying. Looked online locally, at dealers, and even went to a few estate/farm auctions.

You may have better luck finding used, that was just my experience.

Tires:

I only have about 8 hours on it now and it has all been on dry ground. But no traction issues going up hills etc. I haven't done iany ground engagement work yet though so I haven't really put them to the test. There are some good threads on here about R4 vs R1.

Insurance:

By financing through KCC, I was required to insure it but not necessarily through them. I chose to though.

Good luck!
 

39Kubbie

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L3901, RCR1860, BB1260, QH10
Oct 27, 2017
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Kansas City, MO
Thanks everyone for the nice welcome, good feedback and helpful hints!

I have just over 8 hours on it now, and I'm down to about an 1/8 of a tank showing on the fuel gage. Don't plan to run it again until I can fill it up. I've been running at the 540 RPM speed and bush hogging, so maybe I'm burning more now than what my long term average will be. I'm anxious to see after filling it what my fuel burn has been, but if the gage is close to accurate I'm more in the ballpark of 1.2 gal/hr. mdhughes - knowing that you're averaging 2.4 hrs/gal (0.4 gal/hr) is awesome - that's amazing! What type of work do you typically do with it?
 

mdhughes

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I'm anxious to see after filling it what my fuel burn has been, but if the gage is close to accurate I'm more in the ballpark of 1.2 gal/hr. mdhughes - knowing that you're averaging 2.4 hrs/gal (0.4 gal/hr) is awesome - that's amazing! What type of work do you typically do with it?
I mostly use the tractor for cutting firewood during the winter months. During the summer I maintain our 2/10 mile driveway and help maintain our 1 mile long private road. The one other thing I do with the tractor is to run my PTO WoodMaxx wood chipper.

As far as the fuel gauge, I find that mine will take a while to go from full to half and then goes down faster from the half to empty.