Trailering tie down question.

[Benhameen]

I’m sure this has been discussed but it im not finding exactly what I’m looking for.
As I sit her with a couple broken toes bored as, you know what and having recently purchased a new trailer to haul my L3800 a couple questions have come to mind.
So from what I’ve gathered two tie downs are required for a tractor under 10,000lbs. I use chains, forget the specs but they’re above what’s needed, and break overs. I’ve added Clevis shackles front and back which I run the chains threw.
Is the loader considered a separate implement that needs its own tie down? Same question for any implement on the rear? If yes, then four total would be needed, legally?
Also, while going through older post I’ve noticed that some folks use two chains on front and two on the back with ratchets or break overs, on each chain. Is this necessary or just being extra cautious? Tractor only on the last example, btw.
Thanks Ben

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Most DOT regulations in most states require 4 tie down points and yes any implement, like loader, BH, or other needs it's own tie down in addition to the tractor.
You can never tie something down too much!

 

[rc51stierhoff]

I’m sure this has been discussed but it im not finding exactly what I’m looking for.
As I sit her with a couple broken toes bored as, you know what and having recently purchased a new trailer to haul my L3800 a couple questions have come to mind.
So from what I’ve gathered two tie downs are required for a tractor under 10,000lbs. I use chains, forget the specs but they’re above what’s needed, and break overs. I’ve added Clevis shackles front and back which I run the chains threw.
Is the loader considered a separate implement that needs its own tie down? Same question for any implement on the rear? If yes, then four total would be needed, legally?
Also, while going through older post I’ve noticed that some folks use two chains on front and two on the back with ratchets or break overs, on each chain. Is this necessary or just being extra cautious? Tractor only on the last example, btw.
Thanks Ben

I’ve posted this before but maybe it is helpful…

 

[Russell King]

The four devices to tighten the chains with are a way to easily be sure each chain is tight (assuming each corner is a separate chain). You can be sure with three but four is easier to use and also easier to tighten up after the first few miles of travel.

You are not trying to pull the tractor around when using four but with only two you will probably be trying to relocate a tire while tightening up one of the binders.

And the ratchet style binders are much safer to use

 

[Benhameen]

Thanks guys. The video and your post certainly answer my questions. I’ll be changing up the way I tie down to the trailer. Once I get around to it I’ll post pics. Already bought additional chain and ratchet style binders at the farm store today.

 

[dkbswim]

Anything 10k or more has to have 4 points of contact. IE , a chain & binder on each corner but if under 10k two is fine. 4 is better but 2 is acceptable. Disclaimer don't take this as legal advice please review laws that apply for you
look up CFR title 49 Chapter 3 Part 393.128 (b)

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l3800= 2600
loader = 800
bucket =200
add weight of rear implements
add weight for ballast (wheel wights, suitcases, fluid fill)
probably operating in the 4000 - 5000 range

 

[GreensvilleJay]

need to check local laws, as they vary state to state, province to province and crossing boarders could be intersting...
As others have said, 4 chains +1 per bucket would seem to be the MINIMUM

though the very heavy,wide load that passed me doing 120KMh ( 72MPH) yesterday SHOULD have had more than the 4 chains on it !

 

[Benhameen]

Appreciate the replies. I’m guesstimating the weight with my heaviest rear implement around 5,300lbs. This is an over estimate, I rounded up on each item just to be safe.