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seals are protected? Every year there are more than the year before, a few years back we would rarely see one. This is gonna hurt the good fishing we have here.
 

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It's politics. We wait till a species is almost extinct, then we do something about it. Then when they are so overpopulated they become a nuisance, then we open up a season on them. Then when they are almost extinct.....
I think you get the picture.:-D

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Well the Polar Bears and Orca's have to eat too you know,,, nawww I could go someplace else but it would be Un PC :rolleyes:
 

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I have a beautiful sealskin trench coat that was custom made for me.
I was working in Yellowknife at the time, and sent my measurements to an Eskimo co-op in Holman Island.
A month or so later, I had the warmest coat equipped with a hood that I have ever owned.
I cann,t remember for sure now, but I think they told me the fur on the hood was wolverine, and the only fur that would not freeze while breathing near it.
Somehow, over the years it has shrunk, so the last time I tried it on, it fit more like a sweatercoat. LOL
Wouldn,t it be great if we just let nature take care of itself ?
 

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It's politics. We wait till a species is almost extinct, then we do something about it. Then when they are so overpopulated they become a nuisance, then we open up a season on them. Then when they are almost extinct.....
I think you get the picture.:-D

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Well said, a couple guys arrested around here for shooting them last week and the week before, kinda makes you think twice. At least here we have a lot of sea run trout and stripped bass coming in from the ocean but you'll have a hard time trying to catch a cod here now.
 

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It's politics. We wait till a species is almost extinct, then we do something about it. Then when they are so overpopulated they become a nuisance, then we open up a season on them. Then when they are almost extinct.....
I think you get the picture.:-D

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Except that if they were once considered endangered then it seems like they are never taken off that status, especially marine mammals and predators.
 

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Good question! Here in New England great white sightings are strong during the summer especially around cap cod which is a big vacation spot. The fisherman say it's because of the large seal population. I have a friend that fish sharks and he tells me the great whites are protected too. Therefore I keep my ass out of the ocean!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsp4CvENFU0
 
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It's politics. We wait till a species is almost extinct, then we do something about it.
Well said.
Like you guys said, but I can't comment on the marine species since I ave no experience.

In upstate New Yorkistan, we now have critters we hadn't seen in years: Wild Turkey, Coyote, Bald Eagle, Black Bear, Fisher. Even some feral pigs in certain areas.

Turkey and coyote started to show up 40+ years ago in sustained populations.

Our deer population is probably 30+/square mile, versus 3-5 in the Adirondack Mountains. Deer like the City of Ithaca; my twins went to Cornell University. They're all over...

Rumor has it there are Mountain Lion and Wolves. Of course, located by the gubbermint. I don't believe either.

I think that kind of diversity is really cool. Saw my first Fisher last fall up close - pretty cool!

You can have the most animal-rights person in the world, UNTIL they see a pack of coyotes, or a 300lb black bear out their kitchen window. Then, they want someone to "come and get it."

Always thought that was ironic....
 

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Anybody from the U.P. of Michigan reading this? Tell everybody about the wolves that were 'planted' back in the eighties. They are doing quite well according to my brother.
 

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Yep, one president aids the proliferation of terrorists, and another president opens season on them......see....politics. LOL

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Because there are tree hugging fools everywhere that freak anytime they see blood and don't take in consideration the cute little fury seals with big eyes eat everything in site and becoming overpopulated without being thinned out anymore


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Yep so we need more Great Whites, more Orca's more polar bears, more Inuit's,,, And then there wont be a seal problem, and when they are gone the Inuits can hunt and kill and eat the polar bears, and orca's, until they are all gone and the great whites will starve cause theres no more seals see no problem:D
 

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I was thinking more of an open season with a limit on how many could be taken during a season just to keep them in check. I'm not expecting a change any time soon.
 

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I was thinking more of an open season with a limit on how many could be taken during a season just to keep them in check. I'm not expecting a change any time soon.
If you think that is a solution check on the Michigan Wolf Hunting season. The DNR, responsible for wildlife management, put a limited hunting season in place to control the numbers of wolves. The courts decided we needed to protect the wolves to control the number of hunting dogs. The wolves have proven very effective at eliminating hunting dogs especially hounds.
 

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If you think that is a solution check on the Michigan Wolf Hunting season. The DNR, responsible for wildlife management, put a limited hunting season in place to control the numbers of wolves. The courts decided we needed to protect the wolves to control the number of hunting dogs. The wolves have proven very effective at eliminating hunting dogs especially hounds.
I'm sort of amused at the Michigan wolf reintroduction issue. Back somewhere in the 80's I went to a "public input" meeting held by the DNR and colleaugues about their plan to introduce wolves to the UP. I was the lone person in the room who thought the issue wasn't being thought out. There may be plenty of wolf suitable habitat in the UP, but less in the lower peninsula. "Oh they won't walk across on the ice or use the bridge." They have. My question for them was "will you have the budget or the means to control the population when they are taking pets out of people's back yards down here?" Wolves are smart. Why should they bother to hunt deer when there are fenced up poodles and sheep :rolleyes:. ?The wolves in Minnesota were at the time very effective predators on livestock, and probably still are. It seemed to me that they were not restoring a natural ecosystem by putting back a single top predator, and that was a silly idea. The only way to "restore a natural ecosystem" is evict the humans. I don't want to see us humans extinguish species after species, but let's think about how to best share the earth. I can imagine the uproar if a candidate even suggested Americans control their birth rate :eek:
 

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Anyone who has visited San Francisco in the past decade and seen the hundreds of seals sunning themselves on the docks, knowing these animals fall under "protected" status, has to scratch their head. What a mess. And a hazard.

We are starting to see what looks like the hybrid Coyote-Wolf down here in AZ. Bigger than the standard 'Yote but not quite wolf size. A dozen people a year here in Cave Creek lose dogs to 'Yotes. (We pronounce them "YOTEES") They are opportunists and will take the easier meal and save energy in the process. They are smart and avoid risk as much as possible because they know getting injured usually ends in death.

In the summer my wife and I get up early and head out to the back yard swing in our fenced in yard. The Coyote packs start singing about an hour before sunrise and some mornings there are 8-10 distinct packs singing and howling in the valley. My dogs cannot help but do their best wild "howl." :)
 

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I have to agree with Sheepfarmer on the point that we have a huge impact on our wildlife. With the constant expansion and building, we upset the ecosystem. This is why there are more isssues with humans and wildlife "meetings". Say a cougar has a 150 mile hunting radius and we build on 50 acres and populate it, the chances of cougar encounters just went up.
And then someone tries to figure out a way to eliminate the issue due to the civilian complaints of a cougar. Duh, we caused the issue to begin with. If you go build a house in the bayou, don't get mad when an alligator shows up in your yard. It WAS his yard first.lol
I'm not a tree hugger by no means. I hunt, I fish, I enjoy the outdoors and want to conserve the resources for my grandchildren. But my question is, who hires these guys that make up these rules? Here in Texas they just passed a law that you can poison feral hogs. So......how do you NOT poison the other wildlife that decides to eat the poisoned bait that was put out for hogs? Maybe the animals forgot to read the warning label? Lol.
Common sense may not be that common anymore.
Sorry...I will put away my soap box now.
 

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You all make excellent points but I think sheepfarmer hit the nail on the head, human's need to be kept under control but good luck trying to pass that one. Once politicain's and the courts get involved we are sunk.