9 ft kubota backhoe vs others?

[virginiavenom]

one of the major questions I'm running my head into a wall over is the kubota backhoe for the L60 series. I can run the 9 ft one, although I'm not getting much on weight information available. some of the questions I have are below

sometimes I need to trench for water and or other underground lines, I know a trencher works best, how well would a 12 inch bucket work instead or just get a trencher?

I see a 36 inch bucket is available, does this thing really have the power to use a 36 inch bucket to dig with efficiently or is it too much for it?

how does it compare to bradco? I hear a lot about bradco being the best, any truth to that over the kubota? reasons why would be nice.

to thumb, or not to thumb? mechanical or hydraulic? is it worth the extra 2+k? can I add it onto the backhoe at a later date without too much difficulty?

I'm finding it hard to find videos of the 9 foot backhoe being used by anyone or connecting/disconnecting....it appears to just use the hydraulics supplied for the 3 point to operate and no remotes are necessary, is this true? or should you use a remote for it? are these the only 2 hydraulic connections necessary to run the backhoe?

things that the backhoe made way easier for having. I do have to deal with tree stumps and digging on occasion and hate the cost of renting as to me it seems outlandishly high.

I know I ask a lot of questions, but with good reason.....want to do it right the first time and learn what I can before being an owner.

 

[85Hokie]

one of the major questions I'm running my head into a wall over is the kubota backhoe for the L60 series. I can run the 9 ft one, although I'm not getting much on weight information available. some of the questions I have are below

sometimes I need to trench for water and or other underground lines, I know a trencher works best, how well would a 12 inch bucket work instead or just get a trencher?

I see a 36 inch bucket is available, does this thing really have the power to use a 36 inch bucket to dig with efficiently or is it too much for it?

how does it compare to bradco? I hear a lot about bradco being the best, any truth to that over the kubota? reasons why would be nice.

to thumb, or not to thumb? mechanical or hydraulic? is it worth the extra 2+k? can I add it onto the backhoe at a later date without too much difficulty?

I'm finding it hard to find videos of the 9 foot backhoe being used by anyone or connecting/disconnecting....it appears to just use the hydraulics supplied for the 3 point to operate and no remotes are necessary, is this true? or should you use a remote for it? are these the only 2 hydraulic connections necessary to run the backhoe?

things that the backhoe made way easier for having. I do have to deal with tree stumps and digging on occasion and hate the cost of renting as to me it seems outlandishly high.

I know I ask a lot of questions, but with good reason.....want to do it right the first time and learn what I can before being an owner.

I will tell you if time is a factor - a trencher will do it a loooooot faster! If you are only digging a couple 100 feet - get a trencher! If just a few feet, then hoe.

I trenched 600' at 18" deep in about 6 hours, and hoed a 2' deep trench of 100' in about 8 hours! Roots suck with both!

12" bucket with good teeth will work well, the 3' really will not dig as well, but will scoop soil that is loose better than the 12".

As for stumps, hoe is fine if you have some time! BTDT that. Great feeling when that mofo comes loose!

as for the 2k thumb - that is mighty $$$ for a thumb - there are ones on the net for 1/2 that, and you could make your own if you have some fabrication skills.

I would add the thumb later......just my thoughts.

I would spent the 2K on a ripper tooth, and that way you have a trencher and can switch out back to bucket quickly !

 

[virginiavenom]

I will tell you if time is a factor - a trencher will do it a loooooot faster! If you are only digging a couple 100 feet - get a trencher! If just a few feet, then hoe.

I trenched 600' at 18" deep in about 6 hours, and hoed a 2' deep trench of 100' in about 8 hours! Roots suck with both!

12" bucket with good teeth will work well, the 3' really will not dig as well, but will scoop soil that is loose better than the 12".

As for stumps, hoe is fine if you have some time! BTDT that. Great feeling when that mofo comes loose!

as for the 2k thumb - that is mighty $$$ for a thumb - there are ones on the net for 1/2 that, and you could make your own if you have some fabrication skills.

I would add the thumb later......just my thoughts.

I would spent the 2K on a ripper tooth, and that way you have a trencher and can switch out back to bucket quickly !

BTDT that? don't know what BTDT stands for.

I understand the speed on the trencher is unsurpassed, and I can get the spoon/shark teeth that will tear up roots, most of my land I'm looking at doesn't have much in the way of trees where I would likely need to trench.

do the back hoe buckets not come with ripper teeth?

 

[85Hokie]

BTDT that? don't know what BTDT stands for.

I understand the speed on the trencher is unsurpassed, and I can get the spoon/shark teeth that will tear up roots, most of my land I'm looking at doesn't have much in the way of trees where I would likely need to trench.

do the back hoe buckets not come with ripper teeth?

BTDT = been there done that !

yes they do come with 3 teeth on the 12" and the 36" I am not sure!

 

[virginiavenom]

BTDT = been there done that !

yes they do come with 3 teeth on the 12" and the 36" I am not sure!

is that a 9 or a 77 you have there? or something different?.

gotcha on the BTDT

 

[85Hokie]

is that a 9 or a 77 you have there? or something different?.

gotcha on the BTDT

That is a standard 12" bucket that comes on the BX25D.....

 

[ILPlumber]

I have a BH92 on a 3560 HSTC. It digs pretty well with an 18" bucket. The 36" bucket is great for backfilling. ONLY.

My only gripe is slow hydraulics. I like that baby to flat out move. It's too slow for my taste.

The hydraulic feed taps off my tractors hydraulic system. The remotes are not used for the backhoe. That hydraulic kit was purchased as part of the backhoe.

I'm loving the quick attach bucket. A good operator doesn't really need a thumb.....

 

[HickoryNut]

A good operator doesn't really need a thumb.....

But I do and love mine!

 

[virginiavenom]

I have a BH92 on a 3560 HSTC. It digs pretty well with an 18" bucket. The 36" bucket is great for backfilling. ONLY.

My only gripe is slow hydraulics. I like that baby to flat out move. It's too slow for my taste.

The hydraulic feed taps off my tractors hydraulic system. The remotes are not used for the backhoe. That hydraulic kit was purchased as part of the backhoe.

I'm loving the quick attach bucket. A good operator doesn't really need a thumb.....

since I have you here....would love to know overall thoughts on the 3560 please. wish you had more power on any specific tasks? what do you have for implements? likes and dislikes? how many hours? I'm looking at 3560 to maybe a 5460 at the moment.

 

[virginiavenom]

A good operator doesn't really need a thumb.....

But I do and love mine!

any particular reason or scenario you have experienced thus far, what tractor and hoe do you have?

 

[ILPlumber]

since I have you here....would love to know overall thoughts on the 3560 please. wish you had more power on any specific tasks? what do you have for implements? likes and dislikes? how many hours? I'm looking at 3560 to maybe a 5460 at the moment.

I'm pretty happy with the power level of the machine in general. I'm much happier with the stall guard and auto Hi-Lo turned off. I operate the loader more by feel. I don't need the tractor making decisions for me.

I do however like the auto throttle advance. I believe I am saving a significant amount of fuel.

I have a whopping 52 hours on her.

Implements:
tiller
box blade
regular blade
805 loader
bh92 backhoe
forks


Stowed height of the backhoe is good. I drove the backhoe into a factory with an 8' overhead door the other day. Made it by 2" with the backhoe in roading position.

I use my dipper arm for a "thumb". I am self employed and usually going as quickly as possible. I can hook and move with the bucket much faster than opening and closing a thumb.

I could see a thumb if you were moving logs or digging stumps. The way I see it. If you have a heavy stump that is mostly dug out and you grab it with the thumb. The machine does not have enough power to yank it out. It's just not there. So, if it's already loose, grab it with the bucket and go.

IMHO...