Snow plowing using blade with rubber edge

[Mossy dell]

Inexperienced snow mover here who is dealing with snow in SW VA after two snowless winters in a row. So I'm also rusty. I need advice, ideally from folks who use a snow plow blade with a rubber edge on asphalt.

On my Kubota B2601, I have a B2672 front mount on my loader arms with a 5-foot snow blade. There’s a 1”+ thick rubber edge bolted to the blade that sticks down a couple inches. I manually change the blade angle, so on my to-do list is installing a front cylinder!

Yesterday I reversed the rubber edge because the edge I'd used during 2-3 winters was worn almost to the blade's steel. I'm unsure if this is typical wear from plowing my asphalt driveway or from plowing our daughter's and neighbors' gravel driveways. I think both. But my question is really about my own driveway because I've learned to keep the rubber 1-2" above gravel. Our asphalt is in decent condition but with some cracks, bumps, and patched places.

Our driveway is about 400' long and slopes up to the house at a 20%-plus angle. It takes a sharp turn toward the house at the top, and that curve is the steepest spot and the hardest to clear. Our little AWD cars wiggle going up with the slightest amount of snow. I suppose they'd do better with a snow pack, but delivery trucks wouldn't even attempt it. Ten days ago our propane delivery got aborted when the truck got stuck going up—after I'd plowed. I'd gotten the asphalt nicely clean, but afterward some white pines along the driveway dropped snow and ice. Just very thin patches in spots. And just in time for the truck to show up.

Given my driveway, am I correct in concluding I need to continue to use the rubber edge in contact with the asphalt and accept the resulting wear?

Second issue concerns technique—basically whether to use float or not. I haven't been and am not sure why. Whether I just forgot about it or didn't like the light front-end/steering issues. Maybe that was happening while plowing uphill. I only have 25 hp so can't move much going uphill, but I like to do a little to shorten the job slightly.

I've reviewed messages I saved from this forum and another on using float for plowing, and they were very divided and sometimes contradictory in the same message. The clearest recommendation I found was on Messick's YouTube channel on plowing with a bucket:

On asphalt, lower bucket to paving, level, put in float and scrape the surface clean.

On gravel, nudge bucket up a little and curl cutting edge up to keep from digging in.

What do you think about float based on your experience and about using the rubber in contact with the asphalt?

 

[Dustball]

The wear edges are consumable items, no way around that. That's why they're replaceable.

There's choices of materials depending the needs and wants from a wear edge and cost- the most common are steel, rubber, polyurethane, and UHMW. My preference is UHMW as it's very long lasting and doesn't damage asphalt or concrete.

It's a matter of finding a balance between how fast the edge wears and acceptable surface damage.
With rubber, you have no damage to asphalt but faster wear.

Here's an example of a vendor selling UHMW edges. https://www.goodworkstractors.com/product/uhmw-poly-plow-cutting-edge/

 

[je1279]

I used a 1" rubber edge on my gravel driveway for a couple of years and it got chewed up pretty quickly. I now have a 1" polyurethane edge that I like much better. Cost more, but I will likely get ~5x the life out of it. As for float, I do not use it when plowing snow. I have my skid shoes set so the edge is a little over 1" off the ground. I lower the plow down until the skid shoes hit then give it a small bump or two up to retain steering. This combination has worked well for me.

 

[DustyRusty]

I use a snowblower on the initial snow removal, and then use the plow with the metal edge in float mode and clear the pavement down to its black surface. I've been doing it this way for almost 2 decades and have yet to harm the asphalt. Before I had my Kubota I would clear the driveway with a 1997 Ford F250 4-wheel drive and a Fisher 8' plow with a steel cutting edge. I always angle the plow no matter the pushing machine and as a result, the cutting edge will wear at the edges. I turn the cutting edge over when it becomes worn and replace it when both edges are no longer usable.
If you are doing gravel driveways, until the gravel is frozen, no matter what you use it will be torn up.

 

[Mossy dell]

The wear edges are consumable items, no way around that. That's why they're replaceable.

There's choices of materials depending the needs and wants from a wear edge and cost- the most common are steel, rubber, polyurethane, and UHMW. My preference is UHMW as it's very long lasting and doesn't damage asphalt or concrete.

It's a matter of finding a balance between how fast the edge wears and acceptable surface damage.
With rubber, you have no damage to asphalt but faster wear.

Here's an example of a vendor selling UHMW edges. https://www.goodworkstractors.com/product/uhmw-poly-plow-cutting-edge/

Dustball, the UHMW edge sounds great. I may upgrade when I go through this new edge of my rubber lip.

 

[Mossy dell]

I used a 1" rubber edge on my gravel driveway for a couple of years and it got chewed up pretty quickly. I now have a 1" polyurethane edge that I like much better. Cost more, but I will likely get 3-4x the life out of it. As for float, I do not use it when plowing snow. I have my skid shoes set so the edge is a little over 1" off the ground. I lower the plow down until the skid shoes hit the ground then give it a small bump or two up to retain steering. This combination has worked well for me.

Thanks, man. Do you recall the brand or source for your polyurethane edge?

 

[je1279]

Thanks, man. Do you recall the brand or source for your polyurethane edge?

Here is a link to the polyurethane edges. They are a bit cheaper than the UHMW ones.

Shop Polyurethane Snow Plow Cutting Edges

Outlasts rubber by five times. Formulated to withstand the rigors of plowing with added abrasion resistance. Custom thickness, width, and length. Shop today.

www.polyurethanesnowplowblades.com

 

[lynnmor]

Search for UHMW online and you will find suppliers of bar stock that have a reasonable price. All you need to do is drill the bolt holes and that is very easy. I bought a used setup same as you have except it has the hydraulics. It was one year old and the rubber was spent. With the mild winters we have had, I have been using my garden tractor with a 4 foot UHMW edge and it has been lasting for years.

 

[SDT]

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Inexperienced snow mover here who is dealing with snow in SW VA after two snowless winters in a row. So I'm also rusty. I need advice, ideally from folks who use a snow plow blade with a rubber edge on asphalt.

On my Kubota B2601, I have a B2672 front mount on my loader arms with a 5-foot snow blade. There’s a 1”+ thick rubber edge bolted to the blade that sticks down a couple inches. I manually change the blade angle, so on my to-do list is installing a front cylinder!

Yesterday I reversed the rubber edge because the edge I'd used during 2-3 winters was worn almost to the blade's steel. I'm unsure if this is typical wear from plowing my asphalt driveway or from plowing our daughter's and neighbors' gravel driveways. I think both. But my question is really about my own driveway because I've learned to keep the rubber 1-2" above gravel. Our asphalt is in decent condition but with some cracks, bumps, and patched places.
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Our driveway is about 400' long and slopes up to the house at a 20%-plus angle. It takes a sharp turn toward the house at the top, and that curve is the steepest spot and the hardest to clear. Our little AWD cars wiggle going up with the slightest amount of snow. I suppose they'd do better with a snow pack, but delivery trucks wouldn't even attempt it. Ten days ago our propane delivery got aborted when the truck got stuck going up—after I'd plowed. I'd gotten the asphalt nicely clean, but afterward some white pines along the driveway dropped snow and ice. Just very thin patches in spots. And just in time for the truck to show up.

Given my driveway, am I correct in concluding I need to continue to use the rubber edge in contact with the asphalt and accept the resulting wear?

Second issue concerns technique—basically whether to use float or not. I haven't been and am not sure why. Whether I just forgot about it or didn't like the light front-end/steering issues. Maybe that was happening while plowing uphill. I only have 25 hp so can't move much going uphill, but I like to do a little to shorten the job slightly.

I've reviewed messages I saved from this forum and another on using float for plowing, and they were very divided and sometimes contradictory in the same message. The clearest recommendation I found was on Messick's YouTube channel on plowing with a bucket:


What do you think about float based on your experience and about using the rubber in contact with the asphalt?

I had the same Kubota FEL mounted plow with hydraulic angle option on my B3350. Mine had the Kubota supplied hard rubber cutting edge to protect my asphalt driveways. Never used on crushed rock surfaces.

I always used float when plowing and carefully adjusted the skid shoes to limit wear.

The hard rubber (or Poly) cutting edges do a good job clearing asphalt or concrete surfaces in float but do wear rapidly and are expensive.

One can adjust the edge downward a time or two and it is vertically reversible, but they tend to wear more on the ends, resulting in a convex edge.

 

[GreX]

A very cheap option, and what I've used the last three years, get a stick of Trex decking, and drill holes. Not sure how it will work on gravel, as our driveway is paved, but an option that for sure won't break the bank - since I'm using it on the bucket (only 4' wide) I was able to get two edges out of one 8' stick. And, you can go to HD or Lowes and pick it up anytime.