New Kubota or Kioti

[Mitjam]

So before I go into a long speech I do realize this is a Kubota forum haha. So today I got rained out at work and went for a drive. Stopped at my local Kubota dealer and Kioti dealer. Got talking to the Kubota dealer asked what my 2018 M6-111 with m46 loader and 3700hrs was worth on trade for a new m6-114s or m6-111 power shift my tractor is worth 80,000CND and new tractors are worth 136,000 and 159,000 with loader and 3 rear remotes. Stopped at Kioti he looked at my tractor said it’s worth $85,000 and I could get a Kioti HX1115 (115hp) with loader for $110,000 has 3 remotes. The kioti has so many options compared to the kubotas. The kioti loses quite a bit of hp on the pto compared to Kubota but 83hp pto is more than sufficient. Just wondering what you good folks would do in this situation

 

[jimh406]

Just wondering what you good folks would do in this situation

My guess is most of us bought a Kubota. . Kioti was an option for me with a dealer about the same distance as the Kubota dealer. If you want to buy a tractor that keeps its value and has a reputation for reliability, buy a Kubota or JD. If that is worth less to you, then considering the Kioti is fine.

I view it as a Toyota/Honda vs Hyundai/Kia. Some people have good luck with all of them, but there is no escaping that Toyota/Honda have a better reputation for reliability and keep their value better.

 

[Rdrcr]

I view it as a Toyota/Honda vs Hyundai/Kia. Some people have good luck with all of them, but there is no escaping that Toyota/Honda have a better reputation for reliability and keep their value better.

I like this analogy when comparing the two tractor brands.
Especially considering I currently own vehicles from Toyota, Honda….and Kia (in addition to others).

Mike

 

[Mitjam]

My guess is most of us bought a Kubota. . Kioti was an option for me with a dealer about the same distance as the Kubota dealer. If you want to buy a tractor that keeps its value and has a reputation for reliability, buy a Kubota or JD. If that is worth less to you, then considering the Kioti is fine.

I view it as a Toyota/Honda vs Hyundai/Kia. Some people have good luck with all of them, but there is no escaping that Toyota/Honda have a better reputation for reliability and keep their value better.

Thank you for the reply. Kubotas have treated me very well. It is very tempting though the money that I would save would pay for a new batwing mower. Oh the decisions

 

[fried1765]

Thank you for the reply. Kubotas have treated me very well. It is very tempting though the money that I would save would pay for a new batwing mower. Oh the decisions

Kubota,.......ALL THE WAY!!!!
Though I have never bought a new one.

 

[Mitjam]

Kubota,.......ALL THE WAY!!!!
Though I have never bought a new one.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[mcmxi]

Kubotas have treated me very well.

This is what it boils down to. A known quantity for you vs. an unknown one. I looked at Kioti around the time I bought my M6060 and the only thing that gave me doubts was the lack of a proper dealership and service center near me. They are loaded with lots of nice features.

I tend to be loyal to companies that I have a good experience with, and given that I've owned or own four Kubota tractors and a generator, I'd have a hard time taking a chance on a different manufacturer.

If you decide to buy a Kioti and a new bat wing i hope you let us know your impressions and tell us how it works out for you.

 

[Mitjam]

This is what it boils down to. A known quantity for you vs. an unknown one. I looked at Kioti around the time I bought my M6060 and the only thing that gave me doubts was the lack of a proper dealership and service center near me. They are loaded with lots of nice features.

I tend to be loyal to companies that I have a good experience with, and given that I've owned or own four Kubota tractors and a generator, I'd have a hard time taking a chance on a different manufacturer.

If you decide to buy a Kioti and a new bat wing i hope you let us know your impressions and tell us how it works out for you.

Thank you. Yes I will be sure too I posted this hoping that you guys would see price difference and persuaded me to try looting but seems you all are way smarter than me haha. I prob will wait to be honest and read some reviews on the kioti as it’s the first new utility tractor that size the kioti has built purely itself. Meaning it’s a daedong motor not Perkins or duetz. But thank you for your reply

 

[PaulL]

Dad had a Kioti. It was a good machine, he liked it. He had a Kubota before that - an older M. My view is that you may get more features in the Kioti on paper, but there's a bit less refinement in what's there - so the basic stuff is better on the Kubota. Things like loader operation, transmissions, and maintenance features (I know for example his Kubota had a magnetised bolt in the oil sump that pulls out metal filings, the Kioti I believe did not). It's small stuff. But the Kubotas have just been around longer, and you pay for all that detail.

If you're running a batwing, surely you care a bit about PTO HP? Although I guess you can just buy a bit bigger gross HP to get the same net at the PTO.

 

[BAP]

Personally, if it was me looking at a tractor of that size, I would not stop at just 2 tractor brands. I would also be looking at JD, Case-IH, New Holland and any other big name brands to get a good comparison to what is available. I like my Kubota, but when I farmed, we had several brands of tractors, buying what fit the needs the best.

 

[Sidekick]

I just chose a Kioti over Kubota. Quality actually seems equal but to me the Kioti is way more comfortable and ergonomic. Basically a 15 year old design that has only had minor changes over the years with a good track record. I think saving almost $8k on a small tractor was a big plus but it wasn't the deciding factor. I think the Kioti your looking at is a fairly new model and I definitely would wait a couple years to see how they stand up.