Kubota Regeneration

[kubby 2013]

I bought this Kubota LX 3310 a couple years ago and love the tractor but I'm worried about the regeneration system in the future. So far no problems but looking at the heating elements plastered all over the unit I see the potential for big bills if there is a problem. Only have fifty some hours on it so far but wonder if anyone has had problems with that system. If I had realized the potential for problems I would have bought the size smaller which has the regular exhaust system and would have met my needs. So my question is has anyone had exrperience with the regeneration system? If it looks like a potential problem I will consider sellling it and buying a smaller tractor, it's too late when trouble starts as far as I am concerned. Don't even mention an Electric tractor.

 

[Mitjam]

I bought this Kubota LX 3310 a couple years ago and love the tractor but I'm worried about the regeneration system in the future. So far no problems but looking at the heating elements plastered all over the unit I see the potential for big bills if there is a problem. Only have fifty some hours on it so far but wonder if anyone has had problems with that system. If I had realized the potential for problems I would have bought the size smaller which has the regular exhaust system and would have met my needs. So my question is has anyone had exrperience with the regeneration system? If it looks like a potential problem I will consider sellling it and buying a smaller tractor, it's too late when trouble starts as far as I am concerned. Don't even mention an Electric tractor.

I have the lx 3520 same motor I actually really like the tractor. The key is run them at higher rpms. I let my tractor warm up a couple minutes inside heated shop then go. The common rail system now is way better then the b3350 which used a mechanical fuel pump and dosser which plugged dpf. If you idle your tractor prob worse thing for it just rev it up and go to work .

 

[Mitjam]

I bought this Kubota LX 3310 a couple years ago and love the tractor but I'm worried about the regeneration system in the future. So far no problems but looking at the heating elements plastered all over the unit I see the potential for big bills if there is a problem. Only have fifty some hours on it so far but wonder if anyone has had problems with that system. If I had realized the potential for problems I would have bought the size smaller which has the regular exhaust system and would have met my needs. So my question is has anyone had exrperience with the regeneration system? If it looks like a potential problem I will consider sellling it and buying a smaller tractor, it's too late when trouble starts as far as I am concerned. Don't even mention an Electric tractor.

As far as hours go on these tractors don’t know many ppl with a lot. I know a member on here with lx3310 that had almost 400 hours with no troubles unless it has changed S.G.R.

 

[Yooper]

I have a 2014 L3901 with over 400 hours on it. Zero issues with the tractor. I believe there is a five year warranty on the regen system or something like that. Someone will post and clarify this.

With that being said, just go and enjoy your new tractor! Read and understand what the manual says to do when a regen is initiated, which is simply raise the rpm until the light stops blinking. That’s it. Simple. I try to keep the idle time to a minimum and will shut off the engine if it is going to be a few minutes or more.

 

[kubby 2013]

I have the lx 3520 same motor I actually really like the tractor. The key is run them at higher rpms. I let my tractor warm up a couple minutes inside heated shop then go. The common rail system now is way better then the b3350 which used a mechanical fuel pump and dosser which plugged dpf. If you idle your tractor prob worse thing for it just rev it up and go to work .

I use this primarily in the winter for blowing snow, Stays outside year round with the full cab which is the main reason I bought it. No problems starting so far with temps down to +10 F. I always start it and let it warm up for about 10 minutes at 1500 RPM. working is always 2200 RPM or higher. Had it go through a Regeneration cycle this winter while snowblowing without any trouble. thanks to all for the replies

 

[Old Machinist]

I bought my LX3310 with 200 hours on it. It went into regen at 201 hours. I thought to myself here we go but it was done and over in 20 minutes. It went into regen again just over 220 hours and that one took a little longer to complete. I have almost 260 hours on it now and so far it hasn't done it again. I'm not too concerned about it now.

I use mine primarily for mowing and run it at WOT which is the PTO speed on the tach.

I have watched some YT videos on DIY cleaning of the DPF and that doesn't look like a big deal if it came to that. It looks like if it clogs you can just pull it off and clean it out.

 

[Botamon]

My M7060 is now almost at 800 hours. Absolutely no problems with the regen system or the regen cycle. Most times the only time I know the tractor is going through the regen cycle is that the light is on in the dash.

As others have said, once the tractor is warmed up keep the rpms up and you'll be fine. If you notice the "Increase rpms" light is on because the engine is at an idle when a regen cycle is called for, just add throttle till the light goes out and go about your business. Really not much to it.

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

yes you have reason to be concerned (or maybe better put you have reason to be aware and realistic)

We live in a world now that values low price / disposable stuff.
We also know the electronic stuff has shorter shelf life than say a set of older mechanical switches and levers.

That being said i am 100% sure you will have more problems/more often/with higher repair bills than that from tractors made in the 70's and earlier.

I still own diesel tractors well over 60 years old and they still perform almost as new. In 60 years from now I doubt yours will even still be running. This is just the new real world that we all need to accept even though I hate it.

Even though your Kubota is a top shelf product (and mine as well) I highly doubt it will be running in 60 years from now. Electronics will fail, parts will be unavailable, local shops will no longer be availalbe to manufacture and rig up solutions for us. Its sad but inevitable.

 

[BBFarmer]

Our 3301 aint never missed a beat

 

[SDT]

yes you have reason to be concerned (or maybe better put you have reason to be aware and realistic)

We live in a world now that values low price / disposable stuff.
We also know the electronic stuff has shorter shelf life than say a set of older mechanical switches and levers.

That being said i am 100% sure you will have more problems/more often/with higher repair bills than that from tractors made in the 70's and earlier.

I still own diesel tractors well over 60 years old and they still perform almost as new. In 60 years from now I doubt yours will even still be running. This is just the new real world that we all need to accept even though I hate it.

Even though your Kubota is a top shelf product (and mine as well) I highly doubt it will be running in 60 years from now. Electronics will fail, parts will be unavailable, local shops will no longer be availalbe to manufacture and rig up solutions for us. Its sad but inevitable.

Bingo.

DPF/regen systems will certainly cause problems for everyone owning such equipment at some time in the future. It's that simple.

Most machines will be well out of warranty when expensive repairs are needed. Again, it's that simple.

The only thing that we can do about such is to vote accordingly.

 

[mcmxi]

I bought this Kubota LX 3310 a couple years ago and love the tractor but I'm worried about the regeneration system in the future. So far no problems but looking at the heating elements plastered all over the unit I see the potential for big bills if there is a problem. Only have fifty some hours on it so far but wonder if anyone has had problems with that system. If I had realized the potential for problems I would have bought the size smaller which has the regular exhaust system and would have met my needs. So my question is has anyone had exrperience with the regeneration system? If it looks like a potential problem I will consider sellling it and buying a smaller tractor, it's too late when trouble starts as far as I am concerned. Don't even mention an Electric tractor.

There are some companies offering solutions so that you don't have to worry about or deal with various aspects of owning your 3310. For example, check out Reimer Tuning and TM AG Tuning, both in Canada.

I have about 500 hours of experience with three tractors with DPF, EGR and regens and never had a single issue and never had to do a parked regen. However, in the search for more power, lower fuel consumption, less heat generation, less cost down the road, less maintenance, less hassle, and less crap going back into the engine I came across the two companies mentioned.

As I've said before, buy a tractor based on the size, weight and power needed to do whatever work it is that you do since those are impossible features to change without buying a different tractor. Don't make the decision based on computers, DPF, EGR or DEF since those features are easy to change.

 

[The Evil Twin]

When a problem arises, follow the advice above. It's easier and cheaper to remove problematic parts that are not needed.

 

[kubby 2013]

yes you have reason to be concerned (or maybe better put you have reason to be aware and realistic)

We live in a world now that values low price / disposable stuff.
We also know the electronic stuff has shorter shelf life than say a set of older mechanical switches and levers.

That being said i am 100% sure you will have more problems/more often/with higher repair bills than that from tractors made in the 70's and earlier.

I still own diesel tractors well over 60 years old and they still perform almost as new. In 60 years from now I doubt yours will even still be running. This is just the new real world that we all need to accept even though I hate it.

Even though your Kubota is a top shelf product (and mine as well) I highly doubt it will be running in 60 years from now. Electronics will fail, parts will be unavailable, local shops will no longer be availalbe to manufacture and rig up solutions for us. Its sad but inevitable.

I'm 79 going on 80 so I'm pretty sure I won't be around in 60 years either but I have several tractors that are over 60 years old and still going strong.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

gee, I've got 4 laptops from 1983 still 100% operational and my eldest tractor's a 1957 ( 4 years younger than me ). I've also got a factory time clock(will ring the bells) that still works IF you power it from 120 Volt AC AT 25 cycle.

 

[retired farmer]

My L3301 was delivered to the dealer in 2017. It was used by the dealer around the lot and loaned out to be mused and abused by whoever until I purchased it in 2021. I was assured it would be considered new the day I purchased the tractor and equipment. They put new tires all around, a new battery and a nice discounted price.
I now have almost 600 hrs on the tractor with nary a hicup except for that damn pto cable, but I fixed that with a work around. When it calls for a regen I just up the rpms and keep on working, not a problem.
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[papajoe]

I have a L3901DT that I bought in the fall of 2017. Goes into regeneration mode about every 50 hours or so. Nearly 1200 hours and never a problem. I have recently bought a 2018 model with only 200 hours. They are near perfect for my operation.

























































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[mcmxi]

Peak torque for the 3.4L engine in the M6060 is at 1,400 rpm but I would be doing a regen every 5 hours at that engine speed. Before I bought a programmer and reflashed the ECU, the M6060 would require a regen every 10 to 15 hours under "normal" operation and part of that is due to the ground speed and engine rpm being directly related, unlike with an HST. With gear drive tractors there's a lot more low rpm use (around 900 rpm) when hooking up an implement, using the FEL, getting on/off a trailer etc. , and this leads to more regens.

Now I can run the tractor at 1,400 rpm all day long if I want to without a care in the world.