Committed the ultimate sin.

[DMueller]

2003 L3130. Ran out of fuel.
Had a little incident where i slid off the side of a hill and got caught by a tree before I tipped over. Took some doing, but finally got her Turned 90 degrees to the point of being able to drive off. BUT... being on such an incline. I starved the fuel system. Now it's out in the back 40 with the bucket down and won't start. I added fuel, opened the air valve and been cranking away. Killed and replaced the starter, and still cranking. I cracked the injector lines, (the 2 that I can get to semi easily), and I get nothing. No air bubbles, no fuel, nothing. Is it possible that the fuel pump died when it went dry? Being 22 years old? And other ideas??

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

have you opened the air vent cock

 

[JRHill]

Ultimate sin?!? That would be rolling the tractor, not so much running low on fuel once in a while. I try not to suck air with low fuel but it happens but is an easy fix. It takes longer to go get a wrench for the vent and carry a diesel jug back than it does to bleed the system. Just don't crank on the starter so long and let it cool off.

Glad you didn't get hurt.

 

[InTheWoods]

...and don't use starting fluid (aka ether) in that engine.

 

[Russell King]

Is the nose of the tractor pointed uphill (to drive out)?

Is the tank really full of fuel?

Is the fuel actually getting out of the tank and into the lift pump?

Is there an electric lift pump or is it mechanical?

Check the engine oil level (if the lift pump is mechanical) since a diaphragm failure will leak into the engine.

Are you wanting to pull it out to repair it or repair it where it is?

 

[Tx Jim]

Filling fuel tank to full mark will help in bleeding air from fuel inj system due to affect of gravity attempting to push fuel out of tank outlet.

 

[Bee-Positive]

I've seen Boo-tube vids where they took the spark plugs out of the engine and cranked it over to "blow out" fluids that may have spilled into the cylinders after tipping a tractor on it's side. Quite a bit came out. Prevents trying to compress liquids and cracking the block or some other such damage. Not sure if that would apply to your L. JM2C

 

[woodman55]

I had issues bleeding my L6060. Talking to my dealers teck, he said the procedure in the manual is useless. He said to move the throttle to full and leave the filter loose then crank the engine in 10 - 15 second bursts with 1-2 minute cool downs until you get fuel coming out, tighten the filter, and repeat until it starts. That worked. He also said the L6060 in one of the hardest ones they have to start after doing filters.

 

[JRHill]

The compression release on rigs that have one is really handy when bleeding. But I don't understand all the difficulty. Your enemy to defeat is ANY air in the fuel lines, the filter housing, the filter, the line to the low pressure pump and lastly the injection pump itself. Any air is going to cause you to start all over again.

The diagram in #2 doesn't mention the air bleed cap screws on the filter housing, if equipped?My old machine's filter housing has one to bleed the incoming line and another to bleed the outdoing line to the pump.

I've never had to mess with injection lines and I don't WANT to screw around with them either. Any air bubble in them has nothing to say about 3,000 to 20,000+ PSI.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Have you confirmed that you are actually getting fuel to the injection pump?

If you are getting fuel into the pump, then it's probably the Electrical stop solenoid or manual stop rod that is fouling you up.

Check for fuel to the injection pump and the stop rod and the fuses.

 

[jyoutz]

I've seen Boo-tube vids where they took the spark plugs out of the engine and cranked it over to "blow out" fluids that may have spilled into the cylinders after tipping a tractor on it's side. Quite a bit came out. Prevents trying to compress liquids and cracking the block or some other such damage. Not sure if that would apply to your L. JM2C

There are no spark plugs on a diesel.

 

[whitetiger]

I had issues bleeding my L6060. Talking to my dealers teck, he said the procedure in the manual is useless. He said to move the throttle to full and leave the filter loose then crank the engine in 10 - 15 second bursts with 1-2 minute cool downs until you get fuel coming out, tighten the filter, and repeat until it starts. That worked. He also said the L6060 in one of the hardest ones they have to start after doing filters.

If you open the bleeder in the filter head, turn the key switch to ON, let the electric pump run for a few minutes, and close the bleeder, it will start after cranking for several seconds.
The L6060 is no different or any more difficult bleeding than any other L series common rail fuel system.

 

[Tx Jim]

There are no spark plugs on a diesel.

That statement is true on modern diesel powered engines but about 70 years ago IHC built several farm tractor engines that were started on gasoline & then switched over to operate on diesel. These engine cylinder heads had sparkplugs on 1 side & diesel injectors on other side of cylinder head. A couple of IHC tractor models that I had personal experience were models M-D & 400D

 

[woodman55]

If you open the bleeder in the filter head, turn the key switch to ON, let the electric pump run for a few minutes, and close the bleeder, it will start after cranking for several seconds.
The L6060 is no different or any more difficult bleeding than any other L series common rail fuel system.

tried that many times. Then called the dealer. it should work, but it does not.

 

[DMueller]

As of now it is on level ground. I added 5 gallons of fuel. Today I loosened the ring for the filter and I got flow, so I'm assuming the filter housing is full. Yes I opened the air bleeder valve. Has a mechanical pump.
Sorry I never got a notification that there were replies to this. I'll check thr oil to see if there's any fuel in it tomorrow.
Still have 2 injector lines loose and have no flow from them at all.
Im hoping to get it running where it sits, because it's gonna be a PITA to drag it up to the garage with the bucket down and minimal steering. I'll read through all of these replies again and make myself a list for my next attempt. Weather is supposed to suck here for the next 2 days though.
Thanks for all of the replies guys.

 

[DMueller]

Have you confirmed that you are actually getting fuel to the injection pump?

If you are getting fuel into the pump, then it's probably the Electrical stop solenoid or manual stop rod that is fouling you up.

Check for fuel to the injection pump and the stop rod and the fuses.

Not sure what the stop rod or stop solenoid are. First time I've heard them mentioned. Doni check thr injector pump same as above? Just by cracking thr lines loose?

 

[Russell King]

You might want to open the bleeder valve on the pump and slightly pressurize the fuel tank. And I mean slightly pressurized so don’t go crazy on that or the tank will fail. That will force fuel to the pump even against gravity.

I put a nozzle on the air line and set the regulator to around 5 PSI then put my hand flat over the fuel fill opening with my fingers covering the opening. Put the nozzle between my fingers and give it a blast of air for a second or so.

This is not endorsed by professionals or probably anyone, but it works for me.

 

[DMueller]

You might want to open the bleeder valve on the pump and slightly pressurize the fuel tank. And I mean slightly pressurized so don’t go crazy on that or the tank will fail. That will force fuel to the pump even against gravity.

I put a nozzle on the air line and set the regulator to around 5 PSI then put my hand flat over the fuel fill opening with my fingers covering the opening. Put the nozzle between my fingers and give it a blast of air for a second or so.

This is not endorsed by professionals or probably anyone, but it works for me.

Funny, i actually was actually wondering if pressurizing the tank would help at all

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Not sure what the stop rod or stop solenoid are. First time I've heard them mentioned. Doni check thr injector pump same as above? Just by cracking thr lines loose?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Funny, i actually was actually wondering if pressurizing the tank would help at all

Actually it will not work!
The return and the supply will both get the same pressure as they are both in the tank!

Simply remove the small vent line (YELLOW) off of the jet start valve (RED) on the side of the injection pump and crank if fuel comes out then the injection pump has fuel to it.